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05-24-2015, 08:59 PM
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Rivet Master 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
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What if parts were boxed or made wrong....not really a technicians fault.. But you are on the path to truth...
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Channing
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05-24-2015, 10:11 PM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,757
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf
What if parts were boxed or made wrong....not really a technicians fault..
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If it was a professional technican, (My defination of professional is paid.) a professional would have known the race was defective* when the race was pressed into the hub. OR He or she would have known the bearing was defective upon final assembly. (setting pre-load) In this case the outer bearing was the wrong size. When assembling the hub onto the spindle one is looking right at the outer bearing and the tip of the spindle. A bit difficult to miss a wrong part unless the tech didn't understand what he or she was looking at, or didn't look (distraction or didn't care) at the assembly. In any case generated a "come back" for a rather basic job. So may be the part was incorrect and yet the tech installed the incorrect part and would share in the responsbility of a fix if this were my shop. (And yes I have run auto dealerships for about 10 years of my working life)
*Defination of defective, in wrong box, sized incorrectly, broken, damaged of any sort
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1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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05-25-2015, 09:10 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2004 25' Safari
Crestview
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 162
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Hot hub
Action is right, the tech checked the inner bearing for size but I didn't notice him check the outer bearing I was watching the dog some of the time. The outer dia. is correct but the inner dia. is about 0.25" too large. I still have OEM and the part numbers do not match found correct size on dexter axle web page but hoping to find them local tomorrow. I paid this guy for a service and he failed in my view but live and learn. Could have been worse I made it home safe. I was just going to go around wheels and check for tension but as soon as I raised the wheel up it flopped inward. I knew something bad was wrong yet again. After a real close look at axle spindle I think it will be OK. The tech that replaced brakes bent the axle mounting plate left axle nut loose. It just seems people these days are in too big of a hurry to check details and get things done
right the first time. If you pay someone 80 to 120 dollars an hour they should get it right. Thanks for input everyone. Rand
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05-25-2015, 11:15 AM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,414
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OK GRIZ. Here is the real scoop. I got my timkin bearings through an on-line distributer called " Locate Ball Bearings. Good, knowledgeable staff. I recommend them highly and they have good service.
Bearing & Race, Timkin - #LM67048 / LM67010
Bearing & Race, Timkin - #LM25580 / LM25520
You will of course need a set for each wheel.
Sorry but I didn't save the boxes so not sure which is inner and which is outer but they can easily cross reference and tell you. They can also easily cross them to other brands. The seals I picked up locally just ask for the double lip seal. Be careful I've seen them outrageously priced in the $16 range but should only be $3-5 bucks or so. I need to get an extra set to keep on hand. The races are knocked out using a long punch and can easily be installed without special tools but I broke down and for a few bucks purchased a set of bearing / seal installation tools. Should have gotten them years ago but they made the job much simpler. Don't bother with any fancy grease packing stuff. I got one and ended up using my hands. Nothing better I think.
Good Luck, see ya on the road sometime.
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" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948
TAC - NJ 18
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05-25-2015, 11:38 AM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,757
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polarlyse
Bearing & Race, Timkin - #LM67048 / LM67010
Bearing & Race, Timkin - #LM25580 / LM25520
Sorry but I didn't save the boxes so not sure which is inner and which is outer
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The top one is smaller. If the correct part number this would be the outer bearing and race.
He may not need to replace any of other wheel bearins because there have been zero issues with them since the original re-pack. However, having a spare bearing set pre-packed and wrapped in wax paper then zip lock bagged may be a prudent strategy. (for everyone)
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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05-25-2015, 12:08 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,473
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Hot hub
Bearing packing tip....
This is what I do to pack bearings and always have one at the ready...
Using a vacuum food sealer, place a fresh clean bearing in a sealing bag, fill the inside of the bearing with a generous amount of appropriate grease. Vacuum seal the bag; as the air is drawn out the process will draw in the grease into the bearing perfectly, sealing it in the bag. You can use the freshly greased bearing immediately, or simply have one ready to use on the road should the need arise! It's clean, easy and always ready to go!
Bon apetite
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05-25-2015, 12:40 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,414
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Hey Atomic. That's a great idea. l never would have thought of that one.
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" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948
TAC - NJ 18
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05-25-2015, 01:08 PM
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#28
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2 Rivet Member 
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicNo13
Bearing packing tip....
This is what I do to pack bearings and always have one at the ready...
Using a vacuum food sealer, place a fresh clean bearing in a sealing bag, fill the inside of the bearing with a generous amount of appropriate grease. Vacuum seal the bag; as the air is drawn out the process will draw in the grease into the bearing perfectly, sealing it in the bag. You can use the freshly greased bearing immediately, or simply have one ready to use on the road should the need arise! It's clean, easy and always ready to go!
Bon apetite
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I don't think the wife would go for that one
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05-25-2015, 01:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2004 25' Safari
Crestview
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 162
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This all started because I didn't feel that I had the knowledge to replace the electric brakes. I have learned a lot from this ordeal so any future brake wheel bearing issues I will do myself. Lesson learned the hard way. That's the way I learn a lot of lessons. I must say after having my AS 11yrs now this is the first real big problem I've had. It was one of things that you worry about while driving 62 MPH down the hwy. Thanks again for all the replies. Rand
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