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06-09-2016, 06:12 PM
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Rivet Master 
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,524
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Has anyone ever tried rejuvenating a rubber torsion axle?
Seems like you could jack the trailer up to unload the wheel, drill a couple holes in the flat sides of the axle near the ends, squirt in half a tube of RTV silicone, and wait like 24 hours until it sets.
I'm sure someone has tried it; I'm just interested in what happened...
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06-09-2016, 06:23 PM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,431
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I seriously doubt that would make a difference. And there are hundreds of old axles that have been removed. (if not thousands)
It isn't about the surface of the rubber which is all you would reach by spraying into a hole in the axle. AND the rubber over fills the metal tube. So drilling a hole might have rubber squeezing to get out the hole.
The longer the rubber rods the more weight it can handle. So the rubber rods come in different lengths and are nearer to the outside of the axles.
>>>>>>>Action
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1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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06-09-2016, 06:35 PM
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Rivet Master 
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,524
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I was thinking that if the trailer is lower, then it's because the rubber rods are permanently squished and hardened. The RTV would fill the space that used to be occupied by the now smaller rods.
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"Between what matters and what seems to matter, how should the world we know judge wisely?" - E.C. Bentley, Trent's Last Case
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06-09-2016, 06:50 PM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,431
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There is no space inside the axle housing.
The rubber has hardened not contracted.
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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06-09-2016, 06:50 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1991 25' Excella
Stanfield
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 317
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You could squirt all the rtv you want in there. But the rubber wont magicly renew itself and there's little to no room anyways.
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06-09-2016, 07:23 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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Conventional brake fluid will rejuvinate old rubber....temporarially
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06-09-2016, 08:00 PM
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Rivet Master 

Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,010
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If you use silicone brake fluid, it may cause the rubber to swell. But the stuff makes pretty good shoe polish (do not ask; another MG story). And, needing a lot of it, you will probably be better off financially by buying new axles.
Lynn
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicNo13
Conventional brake fluid will rejuvinate old rubber....temporarially
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06-10-2016, 12:07 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1963 22' Safari
Vail
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 24
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Call Inland RV and talk to Andy Rogozinski -- 800-877-7311. He is an expert on axles. I think the answer is that you can't rejuvenate one.
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06-10-2016, 12:41 PM
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Rivet Master 
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo
, Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 686
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I've often wondered if heat would rejuvenate the rubber. It will with some rubbers an plastics. I replaced my axle a couple of years ago, and my old one is still out in the yard, waiting to go to the recycler. I'm tempted to try it just to see what would happen. If only I could figure out a way to heat it without burning the rubber. The wife would probably be unhappy if I tried shoving it in the oven.
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06-10-2016, 01:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2013 20' Flying Cloud
2014 16' Sport
2019 23' Flying Cloud
Dunedin
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 325
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I have just dealt with an axle. And getting lessons about it. Yes the rubber bushings inside the axle compress, and do not rejuvenate. As they compress the axle bends. Speak with Billy at American Frame and Axle 813-620-9151. He's very helpful.
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06-10-2016, 03:26 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Sunriver
, Oregon
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 128
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No way....
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06-10-2016, 04:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1967 17' Caravel
1968 22' Safari
Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 94
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Dexter axle cut-away
After changing my axle I had to see the "mysterious" inside of the old one.
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06-10-2016, 06:01 PM
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Moderator dude

1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,431
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The four rubber rods in that axle are what create the spring! The longer the rod the higher the load rating.
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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06-10-2016, 08:51 PM
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Rivet Master 
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,944
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Spring rate
I have never measured the spring rate for my trailers. If the rubber compound Airstream/Henchel/Dexter uses is the same for all axles and only the length is increased to increase the load capacity, the axle's spring rate will also increase. That means, the higher the load capacity, the more severe the ride.
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06-11-2016, 12:10 AM
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Rivet Master 
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,524
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Here's what I mean about drilling a hole in the side of the axle tube and filling some of the voids with RTV.....
Much thanks to altnbndr for the excellent photos....
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"Between what matters and what seems to matter, how should the world we know judge wisely?" - E.C. Bentley, Trent's Last Case
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06-11-2016, 07:56 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1963 22' Safari
Vail
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 24
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It is a torsion spring axle. The square-ish rod is the torsion spring. The rubber 'rods' are the internal dampers. The rubber rods are inserted at the time of manufacture by freezing them in liquid nitrogen to make them shrink and become rigid for insertion. Over time, the rubber will harden and the torsion suspension takes a permanent set thus requiring replacement.
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06-11-2016, 09:10 AM
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Rivet Master 
1967 17' Caravel
Oak Creek
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,526
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Quote:
Originally Posted by altnbndr
After changing my axle I had to see the "mysterious" inside of the old one.
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Thanks for posting. I always wondered.
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