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Old 04-16-2006, 12:09 AM   #21
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Hey markdoane,

I can,t see it from here ! I saw your axle replacement on a much older post of yours and its on your profile .I thought you had a tradewind .I know what is in my 60 a hadco 5200lb. And looking at your photos ,the old axle and spindle is smaller than your dexter 5200lb .I also know my spindles are larger like the dexter in your photo .It uses those(hard to find) neoprene axle seals ,they look like more common wheel seals but are a larger size at the seal surface .I wish my eyes were better than they are believe me!

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Old 04-16-2006, 12:23 AM   #22
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In the beginning!


I feel that I am a bit responsible for bringing Axis to the table (or to Airstream owners). As the Director of Business Development for Axis Products, I saw several things that enticed me to want to provide bolt in replacements for Airstream owners at a cost less than the "Exclusive Henschen" that sells for $800.00 complete (brakes and drums) plus shipping. When I was at Axis I had many happy customers that all started with Lou Patterson. I successfully provided axles that were not a hassle to install, for $279.00 plus shipping. Inland did not like this as you can imagine - thus the fireworks began. The count when I retired in August 2005 was about 57 happy customers. After I retired Uwe placed an order - I was not present to oversee his order. They made several errors with Uwe's order and I felt a bit responsible. Thus, I communicated with him in detail about this and the way things had gone. Meanwhile the PM's kept coming for axle help. After careful thought and talking with several folks that had received product after my retirement I feel Axis had dropped the ball on the Airstream program without me. Thus I DO NOT recommend the Axis Products axle any longer. I recommend Dexter to anyone that wants my opinion. There are a limited number of torsion axle providers in the USA. Dexter, Henschen, Axis, Al-Ko and Reliable are the main players. Dexter is the largest producer of trailer axles in the USA. Al-Ko Kober is the biggest in the world. All torsion axles sell for around $279-$400 retail. If you research the forums extensively you will find that Henschen (when you could buy them from the factory) fell in the price range that I just stated.

I had no way of knowing what Axis would do after I retired - I provided a 30-day notice and attempted to make a clean hand-off. This has not proven to be the case. To all of my past customers - a sincere thank you. To all future Axis prospective customers - read the forums and think about my words above.

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Old 04-16-2006, 01:08 AM   #23
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Hello axleman ,

thanks for you response about the axis product. I commend you on your integrity first and formost! You were involved in helping provide airstream owners with a choice and a good value .There is nothing wrong with that. You also know that you did a first rate job while you were there and in no way can or should you feel any regret for a product that the company really does not desire to continue to bring to the table .Im sure that readers here see your sincere committment to them regarding axles. and input from yourself on the forums .

Thank you much,

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Old 04-16-2006, 01:50 AM   #24
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Stand-up to the end!....!

Henry -

Thanks for your forthright post about your past with Axis, your present - not with Axis, and your future - your recommendation.

All you can do is be upfront about your past and your present. The future will have to take care of itself!

Thanks for being straight-up!

That is all we can ever ask of our fellow man.

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Old 04-16-2006, 06:55 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by scottanlily
Hey markdoane,
. . . And looking at your photos ,the old axle and spindle is smaller than your dexter 5200lb . . .
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Ok, I thought you were referring to the size of the Tradewind. They did gain a lot of weight between 1959 and 1960.
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Old 04-16-2006, 09:09 AM   #26
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I replaced mine in early 2003 with 3500# Henschens, purchased through Inland RV. I bought the bare axles, and re-used my bearings and hubs. I did replace one set of brakes on the front axles with complete Dexter assemblies. Shocks were replaced. I re-packed with Amsoil synthetic grease.

So far no problems, many camping trips in Ohio, and Pennsylvania, the move to Florida, and many trips in Florida heat, with no problems. Installation went extremely well, I did everything all by myself, on a gravel parking lot to boot!
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