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08-24-2020, 07:12 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 146
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DIY Dexter Lift Installation
Ok gang, our first thread on the forum. The new (to us) AS ('17 30' International) is sitting in the yard and the Dexter lift brackets are sitting on the work bench. I've read a lot on the forum about how most people love the lift once they have it, but has anyone installed themselves?
I've got a shop to pull it into for the install and a decent set of tools (there may be a fair amount of Harbor Freight in there). The directions that come with the kit make it look like it takes about 30 minutes, though the pictures are definitely not of an AS. I've seen some YouTube guys doing it over the course of 2 days.
So, has anyone out there done it? If not, around how much was it to have it installed? Thanks.
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08-24-2020, 07:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 30' Flying Cloud
Grass Lake
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 280
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i just finished that job on our '19 FC 30'. It is a huge job!! It took me a total of about 10 hrs over the course of a week. with the 30' trailers, half of the bolts have no access because of the water & waste tanks, so you must weld keepers onto them so you can tighten the nuts. It is also difficult to get enough leverage on the torque wrench when doing the final tightening, not enough space to use a long cheater bar either. I hope it will be worth the effort!
there is a decent video on YouTube that shows the process.
good luck!
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08-24-2020, 08:04 PM
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#4
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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I lift an Airstream almost every week. Some welding required to weld stop tabs on the bolt heads. Takes 4 hours start to finish for the job.
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08-24-2020, 08:13 PM
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#5
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 146
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Thanks DaveP. Tried lots of searches on the forum for diy dexter lift and kept getting the same few results. I'll check these out.
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08-24-2020, 08:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 146
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GMFL & oldnavey, thanks so much. So somewhere between 10 hours over a week and 4 hours? Love it! I'm a General Contractor, so I can tile faster than than the average homeowner, but not as fast as a tile contractor. Maybe the best thing is to just take it to GMFL and learn!
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08-24-2020, 09:31 PM
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Johnnyooo
2015 23' International
Colrain
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginophiles
Ok gang, our first thread on the forum. The new (to us) AS ('17 30' International) is sitting in the yard and the Dexter lift brackets are sitting on the work bench. I've read a lot on the forum about how most people love the lift once they have it, but has anyone installed themselves?
I've got a shop to pull it into for the install and a decent set of tools (there may be a fair amount of Harbor Freight in there). The directions that come with the kit make it look like it takes about 30 minutes, though the pictures are definitely not of an AS. I've seen some YouTube guys doing it over the course of 2 days.
So, has anyone out there done it? If not, around how much was it to have it installed? Thanks.
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Hi Ginophiles..... I have a 2016 Bambi 16’ which is a single axle on which I installed the lift kit and I’m very pleased with the results.... You will need some good jacks and a rolling floor jack to lower the axle just enough to put in the lift kit, one side at a time.... I left one side loosely bolted and removed the bolts on the other side to put in the lift kit....You will need an impact wrench to remove the bolts..... The kit comes with new bolts.... It took me about 2 hours from start to finish... From jacking it up, unbolting the axle, putting in the lift kit, and then lowering it to the ground.... Not difficult at all.... Be sure to keep the axle aligned when you tighten the bolts holding it in place .... If you have the tools and some decent mechanic skills, you can do it... Go for it.....
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08-24-2020, 10:20 PM
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#8
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,020
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Suggestion : If you are indeed in Paradise CA, take it to Vinnie's Airstream Repair in Wilton, CA.
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08-25-2020, 09:27 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
Belmont
, California
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 150
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I did it myself, but it took much longer than 30 minutes. I also re-torqued all the nuts again after the first trip, which took about 1 hour.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginophiles
Ok gang, our first thread on the forum. The new (to us) AS ('17 30' International) is sitting in the yard and the Dexter lift brackets are sitting on the work bench. I've read a lot on the forum about how most people love the lift once they have it, but has anyone installed themselves?
I've got a shop to pull it into for the install and a decent set of tools (there may be a fair amount of Harbor Freight in there). The directions that come with the kit make it look like it takes about 30 minutes, though the pictures are definitely not of an AS. I've seen some YouTube guys doing it over the course of 2 days.
So, has anyone out there done it? If not, around how much was it to have it installed? Thanks.
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08-25-2020, 09:33 AM
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The Aluminum Tent 3
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginophiles
Maybe the best thing is to just take it to GMFL and learn!
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That's what I did!!!
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08-25-2020, 10:39 AM
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Snow Chasing Dog Wrangler
2018 16' Sport
Golden
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyooo
Hi Ginophiles..... I have a 2016 Bambi 16’ which is a single axle on which I installed the lift kit and I’m very pleased with the results.... You will need some good jacks and a rolling floor jack to lower the axle just enough to put in the lift kit, one side at a time.... I left one side loosely bolted and removed the bolts on the other side to put in the lift kit....You will need an impact wrench to remove the bolts..... The kit comes with new bolts.... It took me about 2 hours from start to finish... From jacking it up, unbolting the axle, putting in the lift kit, and then lowering it to the ground.... Not difficult at all.... Be sure to keep the axle aligned when you tighten the bolts holding it in place .... If you have the tools and some decent mechanic skills, you can do it... Go for it.....
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I just installed the lift kit on my 2018 Bambi 16' the other week but have not taken it out yet to check things out. Planning on taking it on a few more or less straight sections of highway around here. Do you have any tips/suggestions RE checking the alignment, especially when the shop floor isn't totally level?
When I tightened the bolts I made sure there was a little upward pressure on the axle (but not too much), other than that it felt like the horizontal alignment took care of itself by lining up the bolt holes.
Any relevant wisdom would be much appreciated!
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08-25-2020, 10:57 AM
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#12
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Woodway
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 155
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My wife and I installed a set of these on our '17, 25 FC and it took up about 5 hours on a Saturday afternoon.
We lifted one wheel off the ground by backing the adjacent one up on Legos then used a floor jack to lift, unbolt then lower the hanging axle.
Be sure and check the nuts and bolts supplied with your lift kit. Ours didn't thread very well at all, even using an air impact wrench. And, they're plated like grade 8 but clearly not; we purchased grade 8 hardware at the local Ace and installed all with blue threadlock.
Lastly, my wife painted a red, nailpolish index stripe on each nut just to check for any looseness or rotation in future inspections.
It's a chore but absolutely 'do-able' in your driveway with a helper.
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08-25-2020, 11:02 AM
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#13
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Excella 500
Chappell Hill
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 485
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Hardest part of doing mine was convincing myself I could do it. Finally started and took about 5 hours for both axles, just me working.
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08-25-2020, 01:28 PM
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#14
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcskier
That's what I did!!!
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It would be fun to watch a master knock it out in 4 hours! But it would be a few days of travel each way.
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08-25-2020, 01:35 PM
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#15
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steamy1
Suggestion : If you are indeed in Paradise CA, take it to Vinnie's Airstream Repair in Wilton, CA.
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Had to look that up Steamy1, seamed like an odd place for an Airstream shop, rural area of Sacramento County, but there it was. There website says they are not currently taking on many new clients. Just an appointment is months off.
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08-25-2020, 01:44 PM
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#16
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 146
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Its on! Cleaning the shop up now to make room. Debating trying to get it done before a little trip over Labor day, or just waiting till we get back. Will report back any problems or issues. And, again a big thanks to DaveP, for linking to the threads I couldn't seem to find. Lots of good info.
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08-25-2020, 02:37 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,436
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Tips based on ONE lift kit install on a 30' Classic.
1. Prior to unbolting the axle, mark a reference line UP onto the frame marking where the axle was on the frame. At installation position axle back on frame at this reference line. Objective is to put it back where it was relative to the frame. You'll find it can shift front to back as you're working with it.
2. The access to front axle was not bad, rear axle some bolts not so good. I did not have access to welding to modify a very special nut and I didn't need it. I did use a shorty 15/16" combo wrench and was able to jam it in against the frame to lock it in place for tightening. But the big help was making a simple extension handle to the regular 15/16" wrench that allowed me to get the nut and wrench and fish it into position. The 15/16" shorty open end did get a trim via a bench grinder to get a good fit and clear the frame.
Read and follow Dexter directions.
Gary
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08-25-2020, 03:57 PM
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#18
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2 Rivet Member
2006 28' International CCD
Currently Looking...
City
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 40
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Having tabs welded onto the nuts will greatly reduce your install time and your level of exasperation.
I did it without stop tabs. Never again!
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08-25-2020, 05:15 PM
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#19
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2 Rivet Member
BALLWIN
, Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 23
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lifted my 2014- 16 ft. Bambi with help in about 4 hours, easy with hydraulic floor jack and small blocks to get to dump side jack area.
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08-25-2020, 06:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GotTaGo
Having tabs welded onto the nuts will greatly reduce your install time and your level of exasperation.
I did it without stop tabs. Never again!
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After now doing a 19' single axle Bambi and a 23FB double axle, this is the best advice!
Take a look at perfectcasita.com lift kit and the bolts made by Orbital Machine Works. Notice the tabs on the bolts. This makes all the difference.
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