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10-14-2020, 10:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Bob,
Okay, you got me (and Google). What is TITO?
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2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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10-14-2020, 11:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveP
Bob,
Okay, you got me (and Google). What is TITO?
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TETO is “To Each Their Own” IIRC...
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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10-14-2020, 11:26 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveP
Bob,
Okay, you got me (and Google). What is TITO?
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TETO
Bob
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10-14-2020, 02:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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The search may have gone better if I had spelled it right...
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DaveP
2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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10-14-2020, 04:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Decatur
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 683
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveP
The search may have gone better if I had spelled it right...
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I thought he was talking about vodka
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10-14-2020, 06:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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I like vodka, so I guess that is a TETO...
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DaveP
2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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10-14-2020, 07:42 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Yes it is...but fine Bourbon is a necessity.👍
Bob
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10-15-2020, 06:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
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Yes it is...but fine Bourbon is a necessity.👍
Bob
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Bob, TETO.
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2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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10-16-2020, 09:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,576
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Good job..
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10-17-2020, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Thanks, TJ!
I adjusted the Blue Ox hitch up today and took the trailer for a spin around the block. The trailer and truck are sitting nice and level. Best of all, I was able to pull out and into my driveway without changing hitches! No scraping! What a pleasure!
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2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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12-21-2020, 07:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
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Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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I see a lot of people still looking at these posts. If you have questions, feel free to ask!!
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2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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12-22-2020, 04:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 30' Excella
GTA
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 507
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Originally Posted by DaveP
Just an FYI, as an after-thought. I had most of the tools, floor jacks, jack stands, die grinders, etc. from prior hobbies/experiences to do this install. If you would need to buy all of this stuff, it would be cost prohibitive and I would recommend having some one who does this kind of work, do it for you. It is not for the faint of heart to do this install. I did four hour stints doing this work. After 5 days of crawling/sliding around under the trailer, I was ready for a couple of days rest!
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Dave How did you align the new Axles? did you measure form the ball on a triangle from the centre of the ball to the centre of the axles? Or did you take it to a dealer to do final set up?
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previous tow vehicles 2012 Mercedes Benz GL350d - CanAmRv.ca hitch Reinforcement, 2005 Ford F150 Lariat 5.4L
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12-22-2020, 05:26 AM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Ultraclassic,
I'll let Dave provide his answer, but this is what I did on ONE lift install.
Prior to loosening any axle bolts scribe a line from the axle UP onto the frame at each mount.
Now after getting the new spacers and axles back and just before final tightening re-align and inspect those scribe lines. A ratchet strap or other can help put them back where they were if req'd.
Gary
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12-22-2020, 06:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
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Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Ultraclassic,
As Gary did, I scribed a line on the frame for each axle. I then triangulated from the front ball mount to check those scribe lines which looked good. I aligned the axles to the scribe lines when mounting the axles. I then triangulated to the mounted axles, as a double check, and found that it was all lined up. I also check the toe alignment wheel to wheel to make sure that was square (which it was). I raced cars for 20 years so I am used to making these kinds of measurements.
Side note. Since I had the old Henschen axles on my trailer and had to machine out one mounting hole per side per axle, I was very cautious to make sure I did that on the same side of the holes in the frame on each axle. Not a major deal, but an important one.
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2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
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12-22-2020, 07:24 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Originally Posted by KYShelby
Dave, we have a 2005 28’ Classic. So I’m watching this closely, what caused you to replace the axles?
Hopefully mine will last a little longer.
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It was age on our '03. We developed inside edge tire ware on the curbside front tire. I blamed a bent axle, but it turned out the rubber had failed allowing the tire to shift.
POI.. I was aware from the start that GVWR rating of the AS did NOT match the axle ratings JC installed. 7300lb GVWR vs 2 3500lb axles.
I babied them for 17 Seasons and JC installed 4000lb standard,(no never) axles in August.
Bob
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Force of habit...I still baby them.😂
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12-24-2020, 04:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 30' Excella
GTA
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 507
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveP
Ultraclassic,
As Gary did, I scribed a line on the frame for each axle. I then triangulated from the front ball mount to check those scribe lines which looked good. I aligned the axles to the scribe lines when mounting the axles. I then triangulated to the mounted axles, as a double check, and found that it was all lined up. I also check the toe alignment wheel to wheel to make sure that was square (which it was). I raced cars for 20 years so I am used to making these kinds of measurements.
Side note. Since I had the old Henschen axles on my trailer and had to machine out one mounting hole per side per axle, I was very cautious to make sure I did that on the same side of the holes in the frame on each axle. Not a major deal, but an important one.
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That makes sense, I am a mechanic and thought the triangular measurement from the tow ball to the centre of the axles ( bearing cap) would do it, and also would check if the arms are bent or if new made incorrectly
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#4286 Stella the 2000 30ft Excella/Classic - Tow Vehicle - 2020 GMC Denali 1500 Duramax 3.0l Diesel, ProPride3 WDH.
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03-19-2021, 06:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
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Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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We are still open for questions. Feel free!
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03-20-2021, 06:50 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveP
We are still open for questions. Feel free!
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Is an egg a fruit or a vegetable? 🤔
Bob
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04-22-2021, 10:53 AM
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NOAZRK
2004 34' Classic S/O
Currently Looking...
Kutztown
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jun 2008
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I've been watching this thread. Nice post start to finish. Here's where I'm at.
In mid August I have an appointment at JC and hope not to return anytime soon. My 2004 34' S/O has been loaded heavy as I have been FT for 14 years. I've attached a photo of my axles that shows all 3 are level. As I understand it, they are pretty well at the end of their usefulness. No evident tire wear at all. I'd like JC to raise the body 2 or 3 inches WITHOUT causing a stiffer suspension or ride. What axle should be installed and roughly what is the approximate rate per axle?
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04-22-2021, 11:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Hi Noazrk,
To the question of are they worn out, the fact that they are parallel to the ground indicates that they are. Try one other observation. Jack up on side of the trailer at a time and see what the articulation is. If the arms drop, measure up from the ground to the bottom of the arm then drop the trailer to the ground and measure up to the bottom of the arm. If the difference in measurements is less than 1", they need to be replaced.
Also, what does the label on the axle say. If it is hard to read, take a close up picture with your cell phone and blow it up on your computer. That should tell you what the original axles were rated at. They should be Duraflex axles. JC will know what you need. I have never worked on a triple axle, so I have no knowledge of what axles would be right for your trailer.
Depending on the options you get on your axles, they should cost around $1200 each. I do not know what JC charges to put them on. RobertCross may be able to give you an idea since he had his axles done at JC.
Let me know if you have other questions.
Cheers,
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