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Old 02-25-2022, 03:44 PM   #41
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Following this for my 2005, 30 foot Classic.
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Old 02-25-2022, 06:32 PM   #42
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I too was introduced to Luke and I have had him spec and order 5 axles for my for my last three projects. We got all 5 axles installed with no problems. But I must say removing and installing a new axle is not a cake walk. It is heavy, hard work in my view. Here is a photo of my 75 Overlander 27' with the new axles under it. Luke recommended 32 degree down starting angle, the high profile mounting bracket (about 3/4" lift), and a bit of an increase in weight rating. The extra ground clearance is welcomed here in Colorado. I point out they are Dexter series #10 "light duty" axles with 10" drum brakes and rated at 3300 pounds each. My Overlander tows great with no problems noted, including adequate braking force.

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Old 02-25-2022, 06:43 PM   #43
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i have seen now seen three order forms and the bracket to bracket and hub face to hub face are the same..

86.75 hub face
67.06 outside brackets, so i feel sure they are correct.

all newer model units.

the info I need and asked dexter in email is the bearing numbers for the inner and outer of shaft. according to airstream they are 25580 inner bearing, and the LM 67048 outer.

that is the info dexter do not show that i can find..

I looked at the catalog on page 44-45 and see the brake info it show both 10 and 12" brakes available on the 4100-6000K axles.

anyone have info on bearings used on 4700 to 5K axles with 12" brakes. ??
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:03 AM   #44
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When ordering the new 3,600 pound axles for our 2015 23D, because it stays at 6,000 pounds total weight, we also specified Dexter 12” dual puck disc brakes and 3” lift kit. The OEM axles were 3,000 pounds.

Installing this week on our 2014 Classic, the 5,200 pond Dexter axles will also have the same 12” disc brakes and 3” lift plates as above. OEM axles were 5,000 pound axles and we added 12” disc single puck brakes to them. Trailer sits at 9,200 pounds.
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:13 PM   #45
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anyone have a good place to do axle change out.. I have tools, air compressor, impact etc, just need a good place was we travel or traveled full time but stuck in raleigh due to wife's health issues that might last till july..

can bring beer, wine, pizza..

looking for around 2 hrs from raleigh nc area. thinking some time in may to june depending on axle lead time which is running 6-8 week according to redneck.

message me here and thanks..
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Old 02-27-2022, 05:38 AM   #46
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I ordered replacement axles for an 1965 Overlander through Inland RV about 6 years ago. I picked up the axles at Redneck's in Bryon, GA. I learned at pickup that I could have saved $ by ordering from Redneck directly. I have since replaced axles on 2 commercial boat trailers. Working with the people at Redneck has been a breeze and their suggestions have been spot on.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:05 AM   #47
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that is more good info..

so I guess you would have gotten the direct price vs the Inland Price..

thanks.. we have a redneck location some 3 hrs away.. might have to see what the shipping cost would be vs driving to pick.. it's about 200 miles each way so 400 and the pickup gets like 21 on the road.. nay it's like 80 bucks for fuel at $4 gallon.. so drive it is..



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I ordered replacement axles for an 1965 Overlander through Inland RV about 6 years ago. I picked up the axles at Redneck's in Bryon, GA. I learned at pickup that I could have saved $ by ordering from Redneck directly. I have since replaced axles on 2 commercial boat trailers. Working with the people at Redneck has been a breeze and their suggestions have been spot on.
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that is more good info..



so I guess you would have gotten the direct price vs the Inland Price..



thanks.. we have a redneck location some 3 hrs away.. might have to see what the shipping cost would be vs driving to pick.. it's about 200 miles each way so 400 and the pickup gets like 21 on the road.. nay it's like 80 bucks for fuel at $4 gallon.. so drive it is..


Well, the Inland option is no more. What you got for the extra cost was the late Andy R.’s expertise — call him with either the data off the tag on your existing axles or your trailer’s VIN and the axles fit perfectly.

I understand that Colin Hyde is the reigning “axle guru”. So, when my time comes (soon), I’ll use him. I’d rather pony up some extra cash than do. My own measuring and come up wrong…
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Old 02-28-2022, 10:02 AM   #49
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so i rolled under and pulled a tape to verify the number i was seeing..

I got 67" from outside to outside of brackets so the 67.06 number looks right.. .06 is 6/100's of an inch.. its hard to see but that more correct then my tape as it goes down to 1/32.. and it did appear to be on the outside of teh 67 line a slight bit. I understand the number have been verified by AS from others.

when you look at the catalog and see the other stuff it become more and more clear on how the ordering process works..

this will be an order for 2- #11 axles rated to 4500 lbs which will mate with my existing 5200 lb hubs and bearings which are the 25580 and LM67048 bearings. this will be the beam with brake flange installed


Grease , cambered, 32 deg down angle, 3" high mount reverse brackets, painted with shock mounts per Airstream e1492.

I will be ordering 12x2 elec self adjusting brakes on amazon with 5 hole mounting flange..

current axles are 4200 lbs (8700 gross on tag) and we travel full time so going to 4500 and the 3" higher mount and 32 deg should make for a smooth ride.. plus when we stop fulltiming the rubber will has softened up some for not so heavy loaded.

its really not that hard when you take the time to figure out there info..

now to call and talk with redneck to order and figure how long till i need to pickup.
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Old 03-01-2022, 09:52 PM   #50
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Got up to Redneck today to do order.. when we were talking about the spec one thing came up that was confusing..

on the axle section,, brackets section there is a Airstream check box.. when she checked the reverse bracket was removed.. when she called dexter they were like the bracket is not reverse.. I can tell you it is according to the picture on the dexter order forms so not sure what the deal is.

I will call dexter myself to find out for sure. for some reason what they use to order and the dexter order form seem to have some differences.. like in the beam section..

I will get pricing in the morning.. I needed to get them to add the shock mount info in the notes section.
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Old 03-12-2022, 11:26 PM   #51
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You are right about the Airstream axle markup about 100%. I am going with a local Airstream dealer to upgrade and change out axles on our 25' Safari. The local dealership contacted the factory about correct upgrade. They recommended the same size axle that are used in the 28', both are wide body and won't be a problem. The dealership has to go through Airstream for all replacement parts and Airstream factory sets the prices. All dealerships are suppose to charge the same price for Airstream products. The axles will be drop shipped from Dexter to the dealership in 4 to 6 weeks. The Dealership is responsible for the installation and warranty their work. I have found out in the long run when someone else is responsible for all the goof ups and mistakes it always cost more than doing it yourself.
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Old 03-16-2022, 02:13 PM   #52
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so here we are.. finally get the axles order from SkyHigh RV... I was referred to them to do order as the girl at redenck was not all that up to speed on airstream and Carolyn at SkyHigh worked with redneck in the past so she knows the deal..


I am posting a redneck order form and info i learned along the way of this deal.

If you follow this form or when you talk to your local redneck location this is how you order the axles.. you can send this to them as well if needed..

one of the big issues was on the "Bracket Type" line. there are several boxes to check.. one being airstream.. just tell them to check "reverse" and don't worry about "airstream" box.. it confuses them to no end. the rest is self explanatory. also don't forget the shock mount info.. the measurement are for AS from like 1996 or so to present.. (aka wide body) I checked the bracket number myself.

also prices was $1047.00 per axle with shock mount welded on, less hubs and brakes. if you have hubs that use the LM67048 bearing this till work on the D52 or #11 axle.

not sure if this is the same price if gotten through redneck directly i never get that far.

if you are get them direct post teh price. to get complete with nvr adjust brakes and hubs the price jumped to 1300. per axle. (elec nvr adjust brakes, a set of 4 runs $230.)

est. lead time is not 4-6 week and they will be shipping to local redneck for pickup at not cost.

if you have any question on ordering let me know.. carl2591 @ yahoo . com
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Follow-up on Replacement Axles

Picked up trailer today with new upgraded axles. The replacement axles are 4400#, 22.5 degrees down (-) Dexter part number is 410875-08, complete with new drums, bearings, brakes, backing plates and shock mounts. If you have the shop, skills and tools to do the job yourself you could save a bunch of money. Going through an Airstream dealer will cost you almost double on parts. Labor was not that bad for 6 hours of shop time, $834.
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Old 05-28-2022, 12:42 PM   #54
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Just to follow up a bit.

I picked up the new axles at Redneck NC location.. they fit in back of truck for the most part.. had to put one on the top of bed under the cap to fit but so far no problem.. till i get the change out done next weekend at brother house.

I do have aux fuel tank so that sorta make it a bit complex to get them in as well..

one thing to note... dem some heavy biotches.. so be prepared. (150 lbs each)

I did remove one wheel hub to check bearing and make sure they fit the new axles and no problem, (carolyn assured me the were the same) and the bearing which were repacked in march 2020 with some 20K miles look like new, still full of grease so no problem reusing them on new axles. i used the valvoline synthetic grease and its black and sticky for sure..

will need to put some sand paper on the brake hubs to smooth out a couple places and break the glaze in the for the new brakes to set in properly..

will try to post picture of progress if have the time.




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so here we are.. finally get the axles order from SkyHigh RV... I was referred to them to do order as the girl at redenck was not all that up to speed on airstream and Carolyn at SkyHigh worked with redneck in the past so she knows the deal..


I am posting a redneck order form and info i learned along the way of this deal.

If you follow this form or when you talk to your local redneck location this is how you order the axles.. you can send this to them as well if needed..

one of the big issues was on the "Bracket Type" line. there are several boxes to check.. one being airstream.. just tell them to check "reverse" and don't worry about "airstream" box.. it confuses them to no end. the rest is self explanatory. also don't forget the shock mount info.. the measurement are for AS from like 1996 or so to present.. (aka wide body) I checked the bracket number myself.

also prices was $1047.00 per axle with shock mount welded on, less hubs and brakes. if you have hubs that use the LM67048 bearing this till work on the D52 or #11 axle.

not sure if this is the same price if gotten through redneck directly i never get that far.

if you are get them direct post teh price. to get complete with nvr adjust brakes and hubs the price jumped to 1300. per axle. (elec nvr adjust brakes, a set of 4 runs $230.)

est. lead time is not 4-6 week and they will be shipping to local redneck for pickup at not cost.

if you have any question on ordering let me know.. carl2591 @ yahoo . com
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