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04-02-2014, 08:04 PM
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I Bought it I Broke it...
1976 31' Sovereign
Migratory
, North America
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 110
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1976 31' Sovereign tilts right pretty substantially
Trying to figure out if my issue is major, minor, or something altogether insane.
Basically, if looking at the Airstream directly from the back, the right / door side tilts quite hard. On a flat surface, I need 2-3" of leveling blocks to get her close enough to level.
I've recently had the brakes replaced and asked them to look and see if there was any issue with axles, they said no. At the time I wasn't thinking about the tilt and didn't specifically ask. The trailer doesn't seem to pull in any direction. These are just things that lead me to believe / hope it's not the axles.
Just looking for any ideas as to what it could be? A literally warped frame if that's possible? Or could bad shocks even be a possibility?
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My family and I have been full-timing via various modes of travel since 2008. Going on two years in our '76 Sovereign.
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04-02-2014, 08:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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I hope it is the axles, if not the frame is bent or broken.
My bet is on the axles.
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04-02-2014, 08:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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1976 31' Sovereign tilts right pretty substantially
Axles are not too expensive, if you are on a real budget and your brakes are good you can save a few bucks buying bare axles.
Unfortunately, there is no fix for these axles when they are worn out, replacement is the only option.
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04-02-2014, 08:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Excella 500
West Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 732
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sounds like axle failure
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04-02-2014, 09:40 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clicknathan
Trying to figure out if my issue is major, minor, or something altogether insane.
Basically, if looking at the Airstream directly from the back, the right / door side tilts quite hard. On a flat surface, I need 2-3" of leveling blocks to get her close enough to level.
I've recently had the brakes replaced and asked them to look and see if there was any issue with axles, they said no. At the time I wasn't thinking about the tilt and didn't specifically ask. The trailer doesn't seem to pull in any direction. These are just things that lead me to believe / hope it's not the axles.
Just looking for any ideas as to what it could be? A literally warped frame if that's possible? Or could bad shocks even be a possibility?
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The following article will help you check out the axles yourself in less thn one minute.
The Dura-Torque Axle
When the trailer leans, the rubber rods on one side have failed.
Also, ball park, torsion axles only last about 25 years, and then must be replaced.
If not, and if the rubber rods have failed, then you will punish the trailer when traveling.
Airstreams must have a soft ride. When the rubber rods in the axles give out, then that ride becomes very harsh.
Andy
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04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 32' Excella
Currently Looking...
Canton
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,342
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Axle time. We were very pleased with our axles from Colin Hyde. He's very active here on the forum.
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04-03-2014, 09:27 AM
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I Bought it I Broke it...
1976 31' Sovereign
Migratory
, North America
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 110
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Thanks everyone! I'm going to try and go through the Dura-Torque article linked above today after work.
I'm out in Death Valley and headed to southern Utah, hopefully I can find somewhere out here to do an axle replacement if that is what it turns out to be. We're definitely past the 25 year mark. :P
Any idea of what kind of time it typically takes to have new axles put on? We're full-timers living out of the old girl so trying to get an idea as to how long we'll be without house and home.
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My family and I have been full-timing via various modes of travel since 2008. Going on two years in our '76 Sovereign.
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04-03-2014, 09:43 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clicknathan
Thanks everyone! I'm going to try and go through the Dura-Torque article linked above today after work.
I'm out in Death Valley and headed to southern Utah, hopefully I can find somewhere out here to do an axle replacement if that is what it turns out to be. We're definitely past the 25 year mark. :P
Any idea of what kind of time it typically takes to have new axles put on? We're full-timers living out of the old girl so trying to get an idea as to how long we'll be without house and home.
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Replacing 2 axles and shocks on your Airstream should be ball park 4 hours.
Andy
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04-03-2014, 09:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,320
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Its a job that can be done in a few hours. The time consuming bit is that you will need to order your axles and have them delivered where you intend to be in a few weeks' time. You probably won't be able to just drive into a shop and have some "off the shelf" axles installed.
good luck!
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05-26-2014, 04:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 677
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Experiencing the exact thing with our "78" Ambassador. As others stated, it's likely your axles. We will be replacing ours. While your axles are off is a good time to wire brush and coat frame with POR 15 or Chassis Saver. It's amazing what new axles will do for your vintage trailer.
Bob
Indiana, PA
TAC PA-5
WBCCI 4871
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05-26-2014, 08:38 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadrunner
Experiencing the exact thing with our "78" Ambassador. As others stated, it's likely your axles. We will be replacing ours. While your axles are off is a good time to wire brush and coat frame with POR 15 or Chassis Saver. It's amazing what new axles will do for your vintage trailer.
Bob
Indiana, PA
TAC PA-5
WBCCI 4871
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Bob.
Torsion axle rubber rods, last about 25 years, when in service.
Those same rods can fail in as little as 2 to 3 years, if not exercised by being used.
Why one side of the axle rubber rods fail before the other side, is indeed a mystery, but it does often happen.
Andy
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06-03-2014, 08:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 677
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Thanks Andy...I've always wondered about this. Our trailer has had this tilt since the day we got it. Only really noticed how bad it was when my daughter took pictures from behind as we were towing.
Bob
Indiana, PA
TAC PA-5
WBCCI 4871
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06-03-2014, 08:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy 24
Currently Looking...
Milltown
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,087
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Bob.
Torsion axle rubber rods, last about 25 years, when in service.
Those same rods can fail in as little as 2 to 3 years, if not exercised by being used.
Why one side of the axle rubber rods fail before the other side, is indeed a mystery, but it does often happen.
Andy
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I wonder if the trailer was parked on an angled surface for a long time if that would do it?
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06-03-2014, 11:30 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ventport
I wonder if the trailer was parked on an angled surface for a long time if that would do it?
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History says no.
Andy
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