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08-02-2020, 09:21 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
1970 23' Safari
Denham Springs
, LA
Join Date: Jul 2020
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1970 Safari Locked up hubs
Just got this 70 Safari. Its been sitting up for many years as living quarters. Both hubs are locked up. I finally got the lugs loose and removed the wheels which are rotted beyond repair. I have some 15" 6 lug wheels from my 66 Chevy C10 with 225/75 tires I was going to use just to get the thing home. Trouble is there is not enough clearance between the hub and the outer skin to slip the wheels on. I think the axle may be too high in the wheel well? Any quick remedies short of cutting the outer skin?
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08-02-2020, 09:34 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
Denham Springs
, LA
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 6
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Some pics
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08-02-2020, 10:26 PM
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Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,476
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Sometimes deflating the tires work - also may want to check for frame rust being that close to the ground
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08-03-2020, 09:14 AM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,237
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How far is the tow home?
Action
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08-03-2020, 09:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,923
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The torsion axle is shot and will need to be replaced. Don't cut the wheel wells as that will reduce the value of the trailer. Deflate the tires and remove the valve stem cores so the tires can be easily squished to get them between the hub and wheel well lip. Reinstall the cores and reinflate the tires when on the hub. Make sure the wheels are only 6" wide, not wider.
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08-03-2020, 12:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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no cut......
Quote:
Originally Posted by craig rhodus
Just got this 70 Safari. Its been sitting up for many years as living quarters. Both hubs are locked up. I finally got the lugs loose and removed the wheels which are rotted beyond repair. I have some 15" 6 lug wheels from my 66 Chevy C10 with 225/75 tires I was going to use just to get the thing home. Trouble is there is not enough clearance between the hub and the outer skin to slip the wheels on. I think the axle may be too high in the wheel well? Any quick remedies short of cutting the outer skin?
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jack it higher, deflate the tire.....such come out.
its going to need new axle, my guess 
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08-03-2020, 02:56 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Spartanburg
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 438
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While you are putting tires on it would be a good idea to pull the hubs and service the bearings before U try to tow it. The loss of a wheel on the way home would be a disaster. Better yet, take it home on a low boy trailer.
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08-03-2020, 04:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1973 21' Globetrotter
1975 26' Argosy 26
Vista
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 589
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I had the same problem with my 71’ GT. With the original axle. You might try levering the arm down with a scissors jack.
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08-04-2020, 04:09 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
Denham Springs
, LA
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Overlander
The torsion axle is shot and will need to be replaced. Don't cut the wheel wells as that will reduce the value of the trailer. Deflate the tires and remove the valve stem cores so the tires can be easily squished to get them between the hub and wheel well lip. Reinstall the cores and reinflate the tires when on the hub. Make sure the wheels are only 6" wide, not wider.
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Is it feasible to replace the torsion axle with a traditional leaf spring axle?
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08-04-2020, 04:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,519
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craig rhodus
Is it feasible to replace the torsion axle with a traditional leaf spring axle?
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You are much better off with a torsion axle! Get in touch with Colin Hyde for a replacement axle and shocks!
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08-04-2020, 04:21 PM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craig rhodus
Is it feasible to replace the torsion axle with a traditional leaf spring axle?
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Anything is feasible given enough time and money.
The question would be do you want to spend that kind of money, time and effort?
It would be far less $ and far less effort to get a replacement rubber torsion axle.
>>>>>Action
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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08-06-2020, 08:58 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
Denham Springs
, LA
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drboyd
You are much better off with a torsion axle! Get in touch with Colin Hyde for a replacement axle and shocks!
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Do you have contact info for Colin Hyde?
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