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06-28-2020, 03:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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1964 22' safari
does anyone know if 1964 22' has leaf spring or torsion axles, thx
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06-28-2020, 06:21 PM
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,923
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Torsion axles. All Airstreams have had torsion axles since the 1961 model year
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Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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06-28-2020, 08:31 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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1964
Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Overlander
Torsion axles. All Airstreams have had torsion axles since the 1961 model year
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thx joe, looking to buy 22' safari, I will get bearings packed and new tires
hope to make it home.....how will I know went axle needs replaced ?
thx
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06-28-2020, 09:17 PM
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Rivet Master 
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,701
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If they are the original they will need to be replaced. There is no rush left in those rubber innards. You will also be able to tell by how many things fall off inside on the way home. It makes for a very rough earthquake on wheels during travel. We always make sure to travel with a couple rolls of silver duct tape. It holds mirrors on inside, holds the outer compartment doors closed. It can close the air gap of the entry door if the rubber gaskets are no longer sealing it in.
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06-28-2020, 09:19 PM
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,923
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AFTER TAXES
thx joe, looking to buy 22' safari, I will get bearings packed and new tires
hope to make it home.....how will I know went axle needs replaced ?
thx
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If it's original it will need to be replaced as the 55+ year old internal rubber rods will have hardened to something approximating the hardeness of steel. But in the interest of information, in case you cannot tell if it was previously replaced, the best way to tell is to jack up the trailer. If the wheel does not move downward significantly with no weight on it (enough to remove the wheel and tire without deflating and compressing the tire or without cutting the wheel well opening larger), then the rubber rods have hardened and are no longer providing any spring force - they are no longer performing as the suspension to isolate the body from road bumps. If the trailer continues to be pulled down the road with an axle with hardened rubber rods, road bumps will cause the body to tear itself apart and can even cause the frame to bend.
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Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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06-29-2020, 11:27 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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axles
Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Overlander
If it's original it will need to be replaced as the 55+ year old internal rubber rods will have hardened to something approximating the hardeness of steel. But in the interest of information, in case you cannot tell if it was previously replaced, the best way to tell is to jack up the trailer. If the wheel does not move downward significantly with no weight on it (enough to remove the wheel and tire without deflating and compressing the tire or without cutting the wheel well opening larger), then the rubber rods have hardened and are no longer providing any spring force - they are no longer performing as the suspension to isolate the body from road bumps. If the trailer continues to be pulled down the road with an axle with hardened rubber rods, road bumps will cause the body to tear itself apart and can even cause the frame to bend.
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hello joe....sending u a pic of camper, had many vintage trailers but
not airstreams...so u think its a torsion axle, not leaf springs
the trip I am making is about 200 mi. all highway at 55-58 mph.
get it home, then I can fix everything thats wrong, hope Im not making
a mistake. also send u pic of our last a/s 1993 classic
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06-29-2020, 12:19 PM
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,923
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AFTER TAXES
hello joe....sending u a pic of camper, had many vintage trailers but
not airstreams...so u think its a torsion axle, not leaf springs
the trip I am making is about 200 mi. all highway at 55-58 mph.
get it home, then I can fix everything thats wrong, hope Im not making
a mistake. also send u pic of our last a/s 1993 classic
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Everyone has to pull their vintage Airstream home before they can get working on it. 200 miles isn't going to magically make it fall apart, but you could pop a rivet on the inside skin or something like that. However, if you continue to put thousand of miles on it with a hardened axle, the damage will add up over time. I also agree that the slower you go the less damage might occur.
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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06-30-2020, 07:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1963 28' Ambassador
Vintage Kin Owner
Northern VT
, Vermont
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 360
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Be certain the entry door is secure, maybe even an extra tie off between grabhandle and door. If not secure and wind catches it oh oh.
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07-01-2020, 08:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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axle...........
thx to all.... now its time to find someone to put a new axle in.
by the way, thats not a dent.....lol
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07-23-2020, 04:09 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1963 22' Safari
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Abita Springs
, Louisiana
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 20
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We've got a '63 safari and are in the process of ordering an axle. Have you got your new one dialed-in yet? How are you planning on dealing with the "old flange, new axle" bolt pattern issue? And finally...wow. What a beauty!
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07-24-2020, 09:35 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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checking now
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrmegafoz
We've got a '63 safari and are in the process of ordering an axle. Have you got your new one dialed-in yet? How are you planning on dealing with the "old flange, new axle" bolt pattern issue? And finally...wow. What a beauty!
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checking with axle inc. , thx
who are u using for axle...
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07-26-2020, 07:41 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1963 22' Safari
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Abita Springs
, Louisiana
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 20
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Got a quick response and helpful follow up call on an estimate from Inland RV. Was told to expect 7 week turnaround time. Freight was 25% of the quote. Just curious if there are more cost-effective options for receiving the correct axle?
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07-26-2020, 07:55 AM
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Rivet Master 

1966 22' Safari
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Fredericksburg
, Texas
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,660
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I still think Colin Hyde is a good source. He’s hard to get ahold of, but easier since he has a person in the office. I would call and email until you get a response. Good luck
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