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Old 03-14-2017, 09:41 AM   #1
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Single AC - oops

All the other decisions were perfect for our 1st AS *except* letting salesperson convince us that 1 AC was enough for 2016 27FB Int'l Sig = BIG OOPS! Considering factory installation of ducted 2nd AC unit/upgrade to 50A @ $8500 vs trade in for new. Love this trailer, but too hot to handle in heat. Thots?
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:33 AM   #2
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:37 AM   #3
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:56 AM   #4
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Thanks, FC & cwf. Strongly considering new Classic, less for style ��, more for integrated systems��. Thx.
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Old 03-15-2017, 04:23 PM   #5
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One A/C was not enough for my 25' Flying Cloud, thus the trade up to a 30' AND 2 A/C's. If trading in, I would also recommend the street side awnings, they definitely help with keeping that side cooler.
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Old 03-15-2017, 04:57 PM   #6
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I never understood the issue with a single ac. A single has always cooled our 30 trailers. The newest being a 2005 30' Bunk. I will admit we leave the bedroom door open. Maybe Airstream has been putting in less insulation over the years?
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:41 PM   #7
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My 2016 30' FC has a single AC, which seems to be sufficient in Ontario.
But then, I suppose that up here, we don't get the 'heart-attack' heat waves that you Southerners get.
I can't remember the last time we got temps of 100F+.
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:31 AM   #8
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I never understood the issue with a single ac. A single has always cooled our 30 trailers. The newest being a 2005 30' Bunk. I will admit we leave the bedroom door open. Maybe Airstream has been putting in less insulation over the years?
They very well may be cutting corners on the insulation.
We spent several weeks in 100+ days in AZ and NM with one A/C in our 25 footer and many nights it never got below 80 in the bedroom, even with the ducts directed back there and a supplemental fan forcing air back there. Quite uncomfortable. Now with 2 A/C's and streetside awnings, we can get it down right chilly even when 110 in the outside.
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Old 03-16-2017, 08:34 AM   #9
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Our 34' you see in my avatar was one AC!! 30 Amp!

I upgraded to 50 Amp, installed AC2... now stays cool, especially in bedroom!!! AC right over the bed.

Momma like.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:41 PM   #10
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Well, before trading, might want to make sure those ceiling vents are lined up - I found it doesn't take much to partially block them with that kind of double rotating whatever that's up there. I even got out a flashlight to see if the openings were fully clear from the metal rotating cover thing (I know, really technical, lol)

We've done fine with one AC, but I spent some time aiming the vents, adjusting direction, trying different configurations (like aiming one at hot window & one into living area or whatever). Also on the hottest days I make sure the skylight covers are closed, awnings out all around, and curtains on the sunnyside windows closed.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:41 PM   #11
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After MUCH deliberation, I think we're going forward with installation at JC. Yes, we did all the aiming of vents, awnings and skylight shades, but it just isn't enough to cool when it's 90s-100s down here in south and throughout Nevada and Central Valley of California in summer. Quiet with quietstream, tho! No doubt the ducting is a big contributor to the expense. We love our Airstream Endeavor, and tho tempted by the Classic and Alde system, can't bear to part with FB. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:36 PM   #12
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I will be picking up our new 28' this week. The a/c issue was one of the main reasons. In the Texas summers, the single just can't keep it cool with 3 or 4 warm bodies and a dog! when looking at new units, the second a/c was a must.
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Old 05-16-2017, 06:39 AM   #13
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2 ACs a must on 27' and higher.

So, ultimately, 6 weeks ago, we traded in our '16 27' Int'l Sig for a '17 30' Serenity and are very happy campers My beloved who has essentially full-timed for the past year, is now heading to FL where AC will have true test. The addition of 2nd AC on our 27' was approaching $10k and met folks who did the upgrade and were having to return to JC w/electric problems :-(
Gotta say, way happier with this laminate and floor plan too, esp since we have all the torque and HP needed having upgraded to 3/4T Cummins diesel few months back.

Continuous refinement process, it is.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:30 PM   #14
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Dual A/C's were on our "must have" list, as we live in a hot / humid part of the country. Sounds like you made a great decision, although I'm sure it would have worked out either way.

Bet you were glad to have both A/C's running while in Florida.
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:28 AM   #15
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OK, even though you made your decision to add a unit rather than trade in, I want to add my $.02. We JUST (yesterday) took possession of our 2018 25' Serenity with ONE AC. Yes we live in Florida. Do I regret it? Not yet but since we don't intend to camp in the Everglades in August we hope the one will do the job. Our camping will be in the mountains or out west in summers. I may need to get insulation pads to slap between the windows and the shades and pads for the closed roof fans too. I just did not want to lose the fan in the bedroom (the cost of adding the 2nd AC).
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:54 AM   #16
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Our 27' is on order, just saw this thread and noticed we only have one AC listed. I wonder how close to the build date you can add a second AC?
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:56 AM   #17
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Single AC - oops

No big deal. We just started fulltiming in a summer of mid 90 degree days with oppressive NC Sandhills humidity. No shade in this spot. Our Safari has every available window/skylight option and a 13,000 BTU Dometic Penguin A/C.

The first few hot days were miserable and I was ready to get a second AC unit but we figured it out. What we quickly learned........

- If AC was on all night and morning, things do not get bad until mid afternoon.

- Leave the AC on all the time if it is going to be hot and humid. We were turning it off when we left for the day with roof fans running but once all the mass inside heats up, it is just too much for the AC to cool the interior down by bedtime.

- If we need to spend the afternoon inside, shut all blinds tightly by early afternoon and close one or both accordion doors to the bedroom area.

- Clean the AC filter every week or more. It is small, clogs quickly and has a big effect of AC performance.

- Put out the awning with bungee cords to anchors at each corner (so we can leave it out and not worry about wind)
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Old 08-20-2017, 07:13 AM   #18
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Our 27' is on order, just saw this thread and noticed we only have one AC listed. I wonder how close to the build date you can add a second AC?
For latest and up to date information I would call the dealer and ask.
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:12 AM   #19
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We have dual AC's on a 30' but seem to stay places that have 30A hookups. If you are sun in the full sun with the awnings up and 98 degrees / 90% RH .... yes you will need dual AC's. I have empirical data on this. If you can get some shade then you can do quite well with a single AC.

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Old 08-20-2017, 08:43 AM   #20
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It's more than adding a second AC. 50 amp power supplies MUCH more power than 30 amp power. (in watts). 50 amp is 12,000 watts while 30 amp is 3600 watts.
Not only that, but your AC won't need to run all the time. At night you can run the living area AC to keep the noise down. Conversely, run the bedroom AC if you're watching a movie in the living area and the noise bothers you.
You can stagger the thermostats to prevent the AC's from cycling at the same time.
If you're on a small generator, you still only have one AC, so you didn't give up anything except the brilliant front receptacle.
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