Running a 58K firepit off the Q.D.25K

[ondaroadagin]

We are purchasing an Outland Fire bowl firepit that is rated at 58K BTU and are planning on connecting it to the quick disconnect port on our 2016 International Serenity 27'. Has anyone done this with success, despite the 25K BTU sticker? We are planning to attach a 20 foot hose to the set up allowing us placement flexibility. We currently have a spare 20 lb tank but as we are full timers, we're always looking to lighten our load. Thanks!

[Adventure.AS]

This fire pit has a regulator and will not work from the AS low pressure outlet (which is running from the AS regulator.) If the burner control is part of the regulator on the fire pit it may not be possible to convert it to work from the low pressure connection.

[ondaroadagin]

We plan to run a new Q.D. hose and eliminate the pressure valve on the fire pit of course as two pressure reducers cannot work in tandem.

This still brings us to the original question. Has anyone run 58K on the Airstream 25K?
Thanks!

[Adventure.AS]

Originally Posted by ondaroadagin

We plan to run a new Q.D. hose and eliminate the pressure valve on the fire pit of course as two pressure reducers cannot work in tandem.

This still brings us to the original question. Has anyone run 58K on the Airstream 25K?
Thanks!

From looking at the unit online it appears that the regulator and control knob are one unit. If so and you remove the regulator from the fire pit you will have no control over the burner. You might be better using high pressure propane by teeing off one of the AS tanks before the AS regulator. If you choose to run off the lp line you will only get the specific btu output from that line to the the fire pit (about 1/2) but without a control valve it will obviously only have two settings - on or off.

[GMFL]

I have the same fire pit. It will not work off the Airstreams propane port. I tried it by removing the outland regulator an running a new hose. (No Go)

[fubar201]

Yup. I replaced the hose with one without a regulator and added an extension. Worked on both my Sport 22 and GT.

No issues at all.

[gypsydad]

I use a 20# portable bottle for my Firepit. I do use the AS propane connection for my DualFuel generator with original rebulator and a QD into a 20' hose sometimes, but lately we have been using the same 20# portable bottle for both purposes. Let me know what you end up doing to make it work. The Firepit is so much easier and cleaner then carrying around firewood, and no smoke issues anymore...moving your chair around. If there weren't the "no fire" postings last 4 years in all the National Parks, I would still be carrying around firewood and missing out on a fire..

[link2dks]

Originally Posted by ondaroadagin

We plan to run a new Q.D. hose and eliminate the pressure valve on the fire pit of course as two pressure reducers cannot work in tandem.

This still brings us to the original question. Has anyone run 58K on the Airstream 25K?
Thanks!

Not a fire pit but I do use a propane generator which can use up to 76,000 BTU's/hr at maximum output with no problem.

I may be wrong but I suspect that 25,000 number is the reserve available if all the on board propane appliances are in use (I did a rough estimation of how many BTU's that would be.) The low pressure regulator on my 2019 GT is capable of putting out in excess of 86,000 BTU's/hr.

Dave S

[PirateChris]

OK, I have read the various thinking on this matter, so I think I should weigh in.

I am a 2016 AS Interstate, and had zero problem or difficulty in this matter. While I agree that the OEM provided gas hose which includes a regulator is a barrier, it is easily overcome with a crescent wrench and a pass through AMAZON.COM.

1.) On the 19" Outlander Firebowl, the OEM gas hose (which includes a factory installed regulator) easily disconnects from the Firebowl at the Firebowl gas valve. A small crescent wrench will do nicely.

2.) AMAZON offers a factory made 18' LP gas hose with quick-disconnect nipple on one end, and a threaded female fitting on the other end...about $25. The female threaded end is an exact match for the threaded male nipple on the Fireball (where you will have removed the OEM gas hose).

3.) Disconnect the OEM Firebowl gas hose and set it aside for use when you use an unregulated gas bottle. Connect the new hose after wrapping the threads on the Firebowl with a few layers of teflon tape, and you are in business.

Mine works great, and I find that I use the fire pit set at about 50% of the possible gas volume. It's more for 'atmosphere and s'mores than for heating the great outdoors. I havenever counted the btu's, but there is plenty of fie....

Good luck

PirateChris

Originally Posted by ondaroadagin

We are purchasing an Outland Fire bowl firepit that is rated at 58K BTU and are planning on connecting it to the quick disconnect port on our 2016 International Serenity 27'. Has anyone done this with success, despite the 25K BTU sticker? We are planning to attach a 20 foot hose to the set up allowing us placement flexibility. We currently have a spare 20 lb tank but as we are full timers, we're always looking to lighten our load. Thanks!

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by PirateChris

OK, I have read the various thinking on this matter, so I think I should weigh in.

I am a 2016 AS Interstate, and had zero problem or difficulty in this matter. While I agree that the OEM provided gas hose which includes a regulator is a barrier, it is easily overcome with a crescent wrench and a pass through AMAZON.COM.

1.) On the 19" Outlander Firebowl, the OEM gas hose (which includes a factory installed regulator) easily disconnects from the Firebowl at the Firebowl gas valve. A small crescent wrench will do nicely.

2.) AMAZON offers a factory made 18' LP gas hose with quick-disconnect nipple on one end, and a threaded female fitting on the other end...about $25. The female threaded end is an exact match for the threaded male nipple on the Fireball (where you will have removed the OEM gas hose).

3.) Disconnect the OEM Firebowl gas hose and set it aside for use when you use an unregulated gas bottle. Connect the new hose after wrapping the threads on the Firebowl with a few layers of teflon tape, and you are in business.

Mine works great, and I find that I use the fire pit set at about 50% of the possible gas volume. It's more for 'atmosphere and s'mores than for heating the great outdoors. I havenever counted the btu's, but there is plenty of fie....

Good luck

PirateChris

Thanks for that! I will try this weekend....we are camping at Jellystone in TX with our grandkids...smores are in the forecast!

[ondaroadagin]

Greetings all! After purchasing a 25' hose and some searching for propane fittings, which was challenging (had to find a hose and pipe supplier. The existing firepit hose connection was an odd size requiring a reducer), I was able to insert a splitter into the Airstream front port of our 27' International Serenity and run both our firepit and a portable grill. The key with the firepit was the removal of the factory hose which contained a hidden pressure reducer valve. This required turning on the propane very slowly or the pit would not light. Removed, it now runs the entire system off the Airstream's low pressure port just nicely, and the 25' hose purchased off Amazon places our firepit pretty much anywhere we need it on both sides of our rig.

Thanks for the input ya'll!