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Old 10-28-2007, 05:54 PM   #21
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It's a tradeoff

Pilgrim----As a CCD owner,the bare inside walls will be cold to the touch when it's cold outside. The thermal isolators that 2Air described help, but the walls are still colder than fabric covered inner walls. This all results in colder interior air.

You trade the clean looks of the bare aluminum for some loss in thermal comfort. It's an individual preference. We try to keep our hands and feet off the walls, less fingerprints to clean. We also throw an extra blanket on the bed. No big deal. Pick the interior that you like. The thermal stuff is definitely secondary.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:38 PM   #22
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We agree!!! We both like the clean designer look of the CCD. Even though the Safari SE has the panaramic windows and some aluminum on the inside, it isn't a CCD. We keep seeing Safari's but they just won't do. You're right, it is such a matter of personal preference - it's easy to see why AS has made so many models over the years - no one model will satisfy all. Now, if we could just find a used 23' CCD.
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:18 AM   #23
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talking about insulation I figured out that on my 28' CCD 2007 the back wall in the bedroom is really cool and a lot of condensation built up on the window as on the wall just behind the mattress and around the window alum edge.
I first felt the cold air coming up from underneath the bed where the storage is.
So I caulked and put foam in all the opening. That makes things better.
But I still have some draft. And as I said the wall between the bottom of the bed where the mattress sits and the window is cold.
With the cushions and mattress I know that this wall is not as much heated as the other ones.
So I wonder if there is any insulation in that part of the wall. I'll check that tomorrow.
Have you ever experience that?
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:42 AM   #24
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One thing I noticed in shopping for a used Bambi Safari is that a couple of the units I looked at with fuzzy walls and carpet had a distinct odor that permeated the trailer. One smelled like old grease and cigarettes and the other must have had some type of electrical fire. Not an option at any price. So it all depends on the lifestyle of the previous owner when buying used.

When I found a CCD it was the choice for me.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:38 AM   #25
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Possible fix for cold interior aluminum walls ...

Back in the late 1950s and early 1960s, when all Airstreams had Zolatone painted aluminum interior walls, the most costly "International" trim models had a ~ 2 foot high padded fabric panel lengthwise along the outside metal wall of the bed(s). The padded fabric kept the cold metal away from the sleeper and provided some "warmth".

An easy fix for today's similar CCD concern would be to add a padded fabric panel along the outside wall of each bed. Cotton batting could be used for the padded insulation. Match the interior factory fabic, compliment your bed cover, or use a neutral color. Any of them would separate the cold bare metal wall from the outside sleeper without overtaking the clean interior look.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:32 AM   #26
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Duff, yeah we were surprised at the draft from under the bed. the cargo compartment doors are weatherstripped but door needed adjustment to seal to the weatherstripping. Better now.

WeeWind, seems like easy and effective after-market treatment to add the cushion of any kind just around the bed. We're gonna do it soon, will post pix.
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Duff, yeah we were surprised at the draft from under the bed. the cargo compartment doors are weatherstripped but door needed adjustment to seal to the weatherstripping. Better now.

WeeWind, seems like easy and effective after-market treatment to add the cushion of any kind just around the bed. We're gonna do it soon, will post pix.
It's better now but I still have some heavy condensation point... so not too perfect so far... but way better and I also noticed that the cargo door needs adjustment.
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