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12-24-2009, 10:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 604
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Heat vent on skin
Replacing the old International Oil Burner with something current.
Can I retain the vintage outside vents on the skin?
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12-24-2009, 10:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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You must have another trailer,that 65 didn`t come with an oil heater,anyhow if you are installing a free standing propane gas heater.1 Combustion air should be ample air flow,from what I have seen on the old oil burners they had quiet a large area for com.air,you may want to duct it down and feed it closer to the burner.2 The vent should work as long as you don`t have to bush down to connect,bushing up is fine. Hope this helps. Dave
PS Do you have a picture of the oil burner,I need 1 for my 48 Spartanette? Dave
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12-24-2009, 10:56 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwaysteve
Replacing the old International Oil Burner with something current.
Can I retain the vintage outside vents on the skin?
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Modifying the intake or exhaust system of anything that could contribute to improper fuel burning, or carbon monoxide gases, or even an explosion, is not a very wise idea.
Granted, the looks would be great.
And the related "hazards" are equally if not greater.
Not worth the risk, to you, your family and/or others.
Andy
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12-24-2009, 11:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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vents
I agree it has to be done very carefully as not to restrict flow etc. We're running a suburban furnace and a new water heater in the 63, but using all the original exterior vent covers. My appologies to the builder that did this originally, I can't remember. I'll look back to make sure to credit their great work, but here's what they did.
Another option if not able to maintain airflow would be to make the cover removable in much the same fashion, but there for show when off, then easy to pivot open or remove entirely during use.
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12-24-2009, 11:19 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easyride
You must have another trailer,that 65 didn`t come with an oil heater,? Dave
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Dave.
Airstream never used an "oil" heater.
But they did use a LPG furnace made by a company called "International Oil Burner".
That company should have stayed with the oil burner heating systems, since they created a super "JUNK TYPE" LPG furnace.
There was something like a dozen modifications to it, "while still in it's very short warranty period".
Today, they are an absolute "EXPLOSIVE HAZARD" as they were over 40 years ago.
Andy
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12-24-2009, 11:38 AM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Today, they are an absolute "EXPLOSIVE HAZARD" as they were over 40 years ago.
Andy
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Not only that, they weighted about a ton because of the transformer they used to step down from 120v.
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12-24-2009, 12:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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Oil burner
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Dave.
Airstream never used an "oil" heater.
But they did use a LPG furnace made by a company called "International Oil Burner".
That company should have stayed with the oil burner heating systems, since they created a super "JUNK TYPE" LPG furnace.
There was something like a dozen modifications to it, "while still in it's very short warranty period".
Today, they are an absolute "EXPLOSIVE HAZARD" as they were over 40 years ago.
Andy
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Thanks for clearing that up for me,knew I had never seen a fuel oil heater in an Airstream. Dave
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12-27-2009, 04:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 604
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
I agree it has to be done very carefully as not to restrict flow etc. We're running a suburban furnace and a new water heater in the 63, but using all the original exterior vent covers. My appologies to the builder that did this originally, I can't remember. I'll look back to make sure to credit their great work, but here's what they did.
Another option if not able to maintain airflow would be to make the cover removable in much the same fashion, but there for show when off, then easy to pivot open or remove entirely during use.
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This looks gret and would work safely no doubt.Do you have any pics of the furnace side?Thanks!
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05-30-2011, 12:28 PM
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Currently Looking...
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Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Dave.
Airstream never used an "oil" heater.
But they did use a LPG furnace made by a company called "International Oil Burner".
That company should have stayed with the oil burner heating systems, since they created a super "JUNK TYPE" LPG furnace.
There was something like a dozen modifications to it, "while still in it's very short warranty period".
Today, they are an absolute "EXPLOSIVE HAZARD" as they were over 40 years ago.
Andy
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Andy,
We recently purchased a 65 Overlander with the original International heater. It works fine. Are you saying they are unsafe? Do you recommend replacing it? We are in Colorado and expect to camp in cool fall months. Thanks! Nigel
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05-30-2011, 12:45 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nigel
Andy,
We recently purchased a 65 Overlander with the original International heater. It works fine. Are you saying they are unsafe? Do you recommend replacing it? We are in Colorado and expect to camp in cool fall months. Thanks! Nigel
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DO NOT fire that furnace up.
They have a huge problem by EXPLODING.
Replace it with a Suburban.
If you take that old furnace apart, you will immediately go for a huge drink, and thank your lucky stars, after you see the internal mess.
Andy
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05-30-2011, 05:38 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Lewster [RV tech] makes mention that he won't/can't work on propane furnaces older than 15-years due to liability. While many older furnaces are low-hour usage (and I've seen posts where some -- skilled -- overhaul them), I think the 15-years and out "rule" to be a good one. There's a reasonalble limit even on propane ones from 1996 by this.
Thanks, Andy. Whew, glad I don't have one of those IOB units!
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