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03-13-2020, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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Flying Insect Screens for Furnace
One of the last problems my Airstream's last furnace had was a yellowjacket nest which partially clogged up the works. To keep that from happening in the new Suburban NT-30 furnace I just installed, a set of exterior vent screens was purchased.
To my surprise the Installation Manual specifically states, "WARNING! Do not install screens over the vent for any reason. Screens will become restricted and cause unsafe furnace operation. Accessories are being marketed for RV products which we do not recommend. For your safety, only factory authorized parts are to be used on your furnace."
After weighing the pros & cons I still think the screens are a good idea. Anyone disagree?
Thanks,
Tom
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03-13-2020, 08:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Fredericksburg
, Texas
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,956
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Have used those for years without issue. I just make sure they don’t get clogged up with road debris.
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03-13-2020, 08:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
modesto
, California
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,097
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Sorry, I do not have the same heater as you any more. I converted to a Precision Temp, Twin Temp JR.
However, I do use those same covers for my vent pipes on top of the trailer.
In My Opinion, As long as you keep them clean and clear there shouldn't be a problem. Once again free advice is worth what you paid for it. If it were me, I would use them. Leave them on until you want to use the furnace, then remove them if you are worried about it. They come off easy, or just undo one side at the time you want to use the furnace.
We have used these on a class A with no issues.
-Dennis
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03-13-2020, 09:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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I also installed a large rectangular screen over the whole integrated intake/exhaust vent on my furnace. I figure it’s easy to clean and big enough to not block airflow.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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03-13-2020, 10:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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Here in bug-filled Florida, we use the screens.
Dealer strongly recommended them.
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03-13-2020, 11:09 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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The key is something called "equivalent opening area." You furnace exhaust has a certain cross-sectional area based on its diameter. The dome-shaped screens have a certain surface area based on their shape. As long as the surface area NOT filled by the wires of the screen is larger than the cross-sectional area of the original exhaust, the flow will not be restricted in any way, and the screens will not do any harm.
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03-13-2020, 11:52 AM
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Rivet Master
South East
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 552
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At a rally sponsored by the manufacturer of my RV, we had a company representative make a presentation. He specifically brought this up. It isn't the RV manufacturer who has the requirement, it's the furnace manufacturer. The RV manufacturer is contractually required to enforce this specification. With all that said, he said that "If the screens are kept clean" there isn't an issue, however, if you bring your RV in for warranty service or send me pictures that will be used for warranty reasons, take the screens off first. What I don't know won't hurt you."
So keep the screens clean, even spider webs or tree floss can reduce air flow. And take the screens off before visiting your dealer.
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2017 29' SOB, 2022 Platinum F-150 SCrew, ProPride
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03-13-2020, 10:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 871
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I've screened my Suburban furnace to keep out the bugs. No problems last fall or so far this spring. I went with a rectangular one like below to have more surface area covered.
https://www.camperid.com/jcj/m200-rv...specifications
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03-13-2020, 11:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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That looks like to one I used. Covers the whole vent assembly on the back of my trailer.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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03-14-2020, 06:32 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 20' Flying Cloud
Williamson County
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 817
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My dealer installed mine prior to delivery. Like said, easy enough to inspect them to make sure they are clean.
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03-14-2020, 09:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,631
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SYC2Vette
My dealer installed mine prior to delivery. Like said, easy enough to inspect them to make sure they are clean.
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Used them for years on my AS. Also, every spring I buy 2 large dog flea and tick collars and cut them into 3-4 " pieces and put them in every place that has an opening, water heater, fridge, heater, and hang one inside the propane tanks. No more bugs or spiders.
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03-14-2020, 09:26 AM
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Proud Owner Vintage SBB
Currently Looking...
Santa Monica
, California
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 165
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I've got a screen over my furnace intake/output vent. But I couldn't stand the idea of the metal edge riding against my vintage aluminum, so I acquired some surgical tubing, sliced it and slid it over the metal edge so the screen rides against the surgical tubing which presses on the aluminum skin.
Michael
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03-16-2020, 07:28 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 31' Excella 500
Chappell Hill
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 485
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I use them for mud daubers and yellow jackets and have never had an issue with those bugs or the operation of the heater since. Make sure you get the ones that fit properly.
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03-16-2020, 11:02 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' Classic
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 344
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I use a screen very similar to the one in your picture. For the water heater, I have adhered a screen to the inside of the door. I examine them prior to beginning any trip. Reading your post will prompt me to be extra diligent in my examinations. I assume that the manufacturer's warning to not use screens is a liability management effort.
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03-16-2020, 12:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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They are fine. As Protagonist said as long as you are not changing the area of the inlet and outlet, you are fine. That is why the screens are dome shaped and/or standing off from the orifice. It is much more likely that you will have much more severe blockages from these insects. I just cleaned a furnace out and every orifice in the thing was clogged. The burner was full of dirt dauber nests and lady bugs. The actual gas jet was clogged with no see ums. You are far safer with a screen than without.
Perry
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