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04-14-2021, 07:57 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 19' Bambi
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 114
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AC not working after recent Guest
Pulled my 2008 19' Airstream out of storage where it has been all winter and my AC would not turn on in Cool mode or Fan only mode, nuthing no sounds no nothin. So I check all fuse's, and pulled the inside cover down. Checked for 120V going to unit and it was present. So time to pull out ladder and check up stairs. I found there had been a recent guest living under the shroud and eating all kinds of things. Wires and plastic dividers. Question is this unit salvageable? This is a Dometic Penquin Heat pump/AC 13,500BTU
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04-14-2021, 08:04 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Clayton
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 408
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Looks like time to vacuum out the mess and splice/replace any damaged wires. Hopefully that'll get it going.
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Erik & Carol
Clayton, Georgia
AS: 2018 Flying Cloud 28 "Baby Zeppelin"
TV: 2017 Ford F250 Lariat w/ Blue Ox Sway Pro
AIRForums #126944 WBCCI #1297
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04-14-2021, 08:06 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,219
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle
If this were my dilemma, I believe that I would just go ahead and replace the unit with a brand new one. I don't think that I would want to spend a lot of time and money to repair a unit that is thirteen years old. I am assuming that this is the original a/c unit.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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04-14-2021, 08:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Bingo!
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04-14-2021, 10:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,759
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What is the best practice for preventing this from happening?
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04-14-2021, 10:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2021 20' Basecamp
South Easton
, MA
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 88
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Following this thread.. I see lots of folks stating they have had critters.. aside from sealing up every possible hole they can crawl into, I believe there are a variety of solutions available. I kept the mice out of my porch roof by jamming steel wool into the crack they were entering from and that seemed to work. But there has to be other ways.. I'm definately interested in hearing what others have to say about keeping the critters out
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04-14-2021, 10:58 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1964 30' Sovereign
Ione
, CA
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 261
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On the AC, get a new one and have it professionally installed.
On preventing future visitors, critters have to get from the ground into the trailer somehow. Make that hard...and eliminate ones which do get inside:
* Kill all weeds and undergrowth.
* Trim away any overhanging branches (squirrels, mice, etc) are quite amazing base jumpers)
* Put a rodent trap next to tongue jack and wheels. And place safety chains and light plug up on the tongue (the chains are a perfect ladder for inquisitive mice)
* Check belly pan of Airstream and close all gaps.
* And while in storage place rodent trap inside on floor too (avoid using poisons inside trailer because many melt in heat).
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1964 Airstream Sovereign 30' (Double)
2004 Dodge Ram QuadCab 4x4 Diesel
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04-14-2021, 10:58 AM
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Lost in America
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,173
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The slots on the sides of the AC base are open holes for birds and other critters to enter and build a nest. I noticed a bird going in and out of mine and upon removing the upper shroud found it was building a nest. I installed 1/4" chicken wire strips along the open spaces and have had no intruders since. Seems like an obvious addition that Dometic and others should have included.
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2015 Airstream International Serenity 27FB
2017 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Duramax Diesel
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04-14-2021, 11:06 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,670
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Hi
I'd replace it. Even if it can be patched together, it will never be quite clear what all the damage is. Having an A/C that isn't "trustworthy" would not be an option for me.
Critters are one reason we store our trailer indoors. That reduces (but does not eliminate) them getting access to here or there. I try to put a few bait packets around the wheels and the jack. (if I remember ....)
Bob
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04-14-2021, 11:13 AM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Replace
From the looks of it, I would resign myself to a replacement. And perhaps think about if upgrading to a 15kbtu unit would make sense, especially in your area where temps and humidity get very very high. I stayed at Pecan Grove RV park a few times in my '63, and the ac seemed like it wanted to be a water pump.
I do cover-off ac service as part of my yearly inspections, and have occasionally found evidence of rodents and birds in my units and clients units. Difficult to prevent, because if your preventative measures include filtering thats too fine, then it will clog up really quick and render your ac useless. Chicken wire or swamp cooler filter material is about as small as I would recommend. Swamp cooler mesh lets a lot of air through, but won't allow for rodents to enter you would have to replace it periodically. In any case, best practice is to check often once you get a new air conditioner.
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04-14-2021, 12:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,145
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Well, before I shelled out some big bucks for a new a/c, I’d be doing some quality weatherproof splices. Tedious work but a dozen splices and a few feet of wire versus new (not to mention installation).
Not to mention that RV appliances are in pretty short supply right now — there are some production lines sitting idle waiting for parts.
Yes, it is an older unit but, personally, I don’t think newer means better — manufacturers keep using the cheapest materials available and never hesitate to lower quality in exchange for greater profit.
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Dismissive cat
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04-14-2021, 12:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Aiken
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 58
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04-14-2021, 12:58 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 30' Classic
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 311
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Awkirch, you are a genius. I have some extra bee mesh and now have a weekend project!
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04-14-2021, 01:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awkirch
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. . . I now have what I think will be a permanent solution . . .
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That looks like standard 1/2" hardware cloth available in most hardware stores . . . is that the right spec?
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04-14-2021, 02:44 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Aiken
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 58
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Yep, bought it at Home Depot, but it’s 1/4” . You want the smallest opening size you can get
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04-14-2021, 02:46 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Aiken
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 58
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Also, I used stainless steel fender washers and stainless sheet metal screws
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04-14-2021, 02:48 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Aiken
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 58
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Oh, and stainless steel zip ties where I couldn’t get a screw to work
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04-14-2021, 03:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awkirch
Yep, bought it at Home Depot, but it’s 1/4” . You want the smallest opening size you can get
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Thanks for this confirmation, and the other details. Hardware cloth is great stuff!
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04-14-2021, 08:57 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 19' Bambi
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 114
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I keep this unit parked at our Lake Lot and there is a tree close by, so the tree rats jumped from the tree to the roof I suspect. I Keep hearing that the new AC units are being made in China and are not lasting as long as the older units. I called my Insurance company USAA and they said my Comprehensive insurance will cover the damages. So I am going to file the claim and see where that leads.
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04-14-2021, 10:03 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1988 29' Excella
Lorena
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 269
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Been there
I found the night before a one week trip that a squirrel had been living in mine. It had literally eaten every wire in two. Most of the wires had long sections missing. Between colors, sizes and routing I was able to splice it back together in about four hours using what I had available. I then added a galvanized wire (again it’s what I had) down the middle of the openings to make it too small for squirrels to get in.
When I got home I trimmed the tree branch that had served as a squirrel highway. If I’d thought of it I’d have added the hardware cloth to block entry through the openings. Darn good idea there.
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