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Old 11-19-2023, 07:02 PM   #1
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2004 Classic Furnace HELP asap

Hello Forum People!

We have a 2004 Classic 28 and there seems not to be much info out there on our model! All info seems to be for much older or much newer models on the wonderful world of web....

2 questions:

Main Question:
Our furnace in Doris (the Airstream) was kicking on and now it is not... happened last year too but jiggled some wires and got it to work... so where is the "Sail Switch" in our unit (since the manual tells you nothing)?

We have opened the panel near the door where the exhaust is and it is not as easy to find like the YouTube videos for 2015 and new models like all the other videos out there and not for our older 2004 model

It is an Atwood Mobile Product number 8531-IV-DCLP Propane model

Secondary Question:
Is there a platform/forum/site for Airstreams that are between 1999--2011?

or that general decade? Parts and trouble shooting have not been found on my part for that general decade... many times people think I am "mistaken" because Classic Airstreams only come in 30 or 33', and to their surprise, mine is a 28 foot glorious lady that doesn't fit most definitions...

Please help, because we have been to 2 "Rivet star" Airstream service places and a regular (but amazing) RV service place and no one has really fixed our furnace or the leak in the front of Doris that works its way up the carpet to the couch, but that is a WHOLE 'other story

Cheers, and thanks for your assistance in advance....
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Old 11-19-2023, 08:04 PM   #2
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Well, we have a 28-foot 2004 Classic, so you are not alone. We have had the trailer for eight years. I do all of my own work, so I have become quite familiar with this model.

I have put in new waste valves in the gray and black tanks, I have installed a new electrical system including solar, inverter, and lithium batteries. I have converted it from an East/West queen to a twin bed. I have installed new axels and lifted the trailer. And, I have "fixed" my front-end separation issues including water leaks.

I have not had furnace problems, but your water issues could be front-end separation issues. So, feel free to ask away and send me some pictures of the issues. BTW, I do have the manual that originally came with the trailer and there is quite a bit of information in that.

Let me know if I can help.
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Old 11-20-2023, 09:22 AM   #3
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I have a 2006 25FB and this happened to me. While out fishing in some very cold weather, no furnace. I opened the outside panel and found a reset button. Hit that and it worked but only for a minute or so. I was out in the wild with minimal tools at hand so stopped there. I took it into the shop and they found a loose wire. Reattached it and secured all the others. Works fine now.


If it had been warmer I would have taken it apart and had a look see. I assumed it was some kind of technical glitch that would need someone with technical expertise. From what you have posted, it sounds like you might just have a loose connection somewhere.
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Old 11-20-2023, 09:43 AM   #4
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Leaks on the front of trailer are typically from:
- caulking around the front panoramic window
- caulking around the battery boxes
- the vertical seam where the lower awning rail is fastened


Furnace -

I have found trouble shooting guides for furnaces on the net for those who service their own. It sounds like your furnace may need a basic service. The atwood furnace has been used for many years with a few changes over time in many RV brands. I have a similar furnace in my trailer which is 10 years older than yours.

Does the fan come on at all? Over the past season the furnace in our trailer would not always light. The answer for me was to put in a new dinosaur circuit board. The furnace would fire only for a short time - short cycle. I had replaced the burner and electrode which were pretty old and rusty. These are preventative maintenance parts and not too expensive. I also found that the furnace needed full 12v to operate. If less than a full battery then the fan would run but it would not want to fire.
Can you describe more of the symptoms?
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Old 11-20-2023, 10:40 AM   #5
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Is the furnace making the ignitor “clicking” sound like its trying to get flame going? Three times and the unit will need an hour to reset, or press reset button. Since you AS is a 2004, I would strongly recomend looking and possibly replace the burner head. They get nasty after a while. We had this done on our 04 ccd bambii last May as well as cleaning ignitor and all the dead bugs. I didn’t replace sail switch but something to consider if you are doing a refresh.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:32 AM   #6
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Bad quick splice

My furnace worked intermittently and also came back to life when the wires were jiggled. Ended up being a bad “quick splice” connector (google it) in the furnace wiring.Quick splice connectors are evil and should be replaced.
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Understanding how/when the furnace fails will help determin the issue. The basic sequence for the furnace is:

Turn the thermostat on
Fan starts to turn
Igniter starts to click (spark)
Gas ignites

If the furnace fails there will also be a blinking code on a led on the circut card.
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Old 11-20-2023, 12:53 PM   #8
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Have a 2004 Safari. Same Furnace.
Disconnect your Thermostat and Join the wires manually. If the furnace starts then you have a bad Thermo. If nothing, then follow Rhinno's suggestion. Traced the main wire harness to where it connects to a "Gang" plug. Garbage. Obvious carbon deposit from a poor connection. Removed it and spliced the wires using "Butt" connectors. That was 10 years ago. No issues since then.
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Old 11-20-2023, 03:54 PM   #9
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According to www.rv.net the sail switch for your model is located in the back of the furnace on top of the fan housing. Says you may have to remove the plastic cover.
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Old 11-21-2023, 08:30 AM   #10
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Here is a bit of reading on the general information of these furnaces.

hydro flame.docx
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Thank you everyone for your replies! There is a lot of info out there, and working on the confidence to start ripping it apart! The blower/fan does not come on, which is a bigger problem than last year when the blower did work but the ignitor did not.... the circuit board is blinking, the reset but has been pressed on and off, and the wires have been jiggled... so I will keep reading on

Also thank you for ideas on the leaks, I did not think of the battery casing in the 2004
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Thank you for your reply... the blower does not come on for the furnace, but does come on for the heat pump overhead, but no warm air either way.... I hope to find some replacement parts and some confidence to open the unit up and disconnect wires... don't want to make more of a mess of it!
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Old 11-21-2023, 04:36 PM   #13
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The furnace fan requires 12vDC The heat pump requires 120vAC.
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Thank you for your reply... the blower does not come on for the furnace, but does come on for the heat pump overhead, but no warm air either way.... I hope to find some replacement parts and some confidence to open the unit up and disconnect wires... don't want to make more of a mess of it!

Furnace and heat pump are two separate systems. To get the furnace you have to have the thermostat set for FURNACE. It may say FUR or FURN. Press the MODE button until you see the furnace designation. It takes quite a while for the heat pump to produce warm air, several minutes.


Remove any covers accessible from the outside. Look for wires connected to "ground" i.e. the case of the furnace or body of the trailer. Make sure all of the connections are clean and tight. Fan not starting is a pretty basic fail and is not caused by the sail switch. Sail switch failure will cause the fan to stop just after starting.
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