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02-11-2020, 06:19 PM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Three way fridge. Apparently no propane operation
We just picked up this 25 GT FB with the three way fridge. It works fine when plugged in. Works fine on battery power, but when I select LP, all I get is a red flashing light and alarm.
The furnace works fine on LP, as does the stove.
I’ve tried starting it and stopping it several times, etc..
Kind of at a loss as what to try next. Any suggestions. We are on our first trip (to Florida). Picked it up last week in Chicago. Would have had them prove that the fridge was working on LP, but a huge winter storm was coming in, so we cut the training short and headed out. I called the dealership today and was told that part of their predelivery check list includes running the fridge on all three modes. I have no way of knowing if they actually did check it.
Any help appreciated. I know these three way fridges haven’t been around too long. I’m leaning towards a new control board, but hoping for a more simple fix.
Thx
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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02-11-2020, 06:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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Have you gone outside and listened that it is sparking? If it is sparking then there is a gas issue. I would try shutting down the one LP tank and turning it to the other. I had the same problem once. I turned off one tank and turned to the other. It lit. Could be the one tank isn’t putting out enough LP pressure. Just a thought.
If you can’t hear it spark then it could be an electrical problem. That would take someone smarter than me.
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02-11-2020, 06:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,401
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I can't answer your propane question, but have experience with the Globetrotter three way fridge. My experience is that I could not use the DC refrigerator very long without completely discharging my batteries. My DC refrigerator draws 14A almost continuously. It killed a just installed brand new set of Interstate batteries on my maiden voyage between Haydocy in Ohio and Central Wisconsin (about 9 hours of travel). So be careful traveling with the refrigerator on DC. Keep checking your battery voltage to make sure you don't kill your new batteries when using the DC refrigerator while traveling. Maybe your tow vehicle produces more than 14A so you will not damage your batteries, but mine obviously did not. I've since added 600W of solar so now I can travel on sunny days with the refrigerator on DC since my solar can produce more than 30A continuously under sunny skies. If you have the factory solar, it will help while traveling with the refrigerator on DC during daylight hours.
I hope someone can help you diagnose your refrigerator propane issue.
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Sold: 2018 GT27Q, 74 nights 12,777 miles
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Sold: 2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
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02-11-2020, 07:06 PM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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I’ll listen for the spark tomorrow. It goes to alarm (red light flashing) mode instantly when I hit the button from AC to LP. I don’t think it has a chance to spark. I’ll also switch tanks.
I’ll watch the batteries while towing. That was a fear I’ve had. If it uses more power than the tundra puts out, and arriving somewhere with dead and ruined batteries. Drove 4 hours this evening and plugged in for the night.
It was 31 when we left home. I wondered if the low outside temps were part of the problem.
Thanks for the replies.
Jeff
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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02-11-2020, 07:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
McHenry
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,203
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Jeff, I'm sorry to hear your fridge isn't running on propane.
That's not a good sign when the red light comes on so quickly. I would get on the phone to JC right away: Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support can be reached at 1 (877) 596-6111, option 1.
For reference, there was a thread from nryn last year who's GT fridge quit on his trip to Alaska; https://www.airforums.com/forums/f42...on-196524.html
Hope it's something simple!
Good luck,
Jeff
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2019 27’ Globetrotter FBT Walnut/Dublin Slate
2018 FC23FB
2019 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi Laramie Blue Ox 1000#
WBCCI# 10258
RETIRED!
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02-11-2020, 08:09 PM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffmc306
Jeff, I'm sorry to hear your fridge isn't running on propane.
That's not a good sign when the red light comes on so quickly. I would get on the phone to JC right away: Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support can be reached at 1 (877) 596-6111, option 1.
For reference, there was a thread from nryn last year who's GT fridge quit on his trip to Alaska; https://www.airforums.com/forums/f42...on-196524.html
Hope it's something simple!
Good luck,
Jeff
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Thanks Jeff. Looks like a tough situation for the fridge. Hopefully I won’t end up with a new one. I’ll get ahold of JC first thing tomorrow morning.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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02-12-2020, 07:20 AM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Well, we saved a few $$ buying this 2020 GT used. It was never really used. However, AS is telling me since it was registered to someone else we are not original owner. So the 3 year warranty covers the trailer, but none of the appliances. 🤬
So I’m working through dometic to try and troubleshoot and repair. They are less than helpful. They basically told me to get into a service center somewhere, but they would probably not have any openings.. So, I’m just trying to find a place along the way. Should be going through Birmingham and Montgomery today.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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02-12-2020, 07:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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I had the same experience with Dometic about my water heater; they would not give me any technical support over the phone and told me to take it to a service center, which was crazy for a simple question about the relay. I just figured it out myself.
The good news is virtually any RV repair place services Dometic equipment so you should not have difficulty finding a place, although the queue for service may be a different story.
Larry
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02-12-2020, 07:59 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 19' Bambi
2020 27' Globetrotter
Chicago
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 90
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I went to the same dealership. Vern was the guy who got it working on gas. You might have more luck talking to him than Dometic.
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02-12-2020, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
McHenry
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GettinAway
Well, we saved a few $$ buying this 2020 GT used. It was never really used. However, AS is telling me since it was registered to someone else we are not original owner. So the 3 year warranty covers the trailer, but none of the appliances.
So I’m working through dometic to try and troubleshoot and repair. They are less than helpful. They basically told me to get into a service center somewhere, but they would probably not have any openings.. So, I’m just trying to find a place along the way. Should be going through Birmingham and Montgomery today.
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Jeff, I didn't know that about the 2nd owner warranty! That stinks.
For grins, why don't you call Airstream of Chicago and see if they can offer some troubleshooting tips. They at least owe you that, if not more. *If it hadn't been for the snow storm, they would have been on the hook to fix it.
Good luck!
Jeff
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2019 27’ Globetrotter FBT Walnut/Dublin Slate
2018 FC23FB
2019 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi Laramie Blue Ox 1000#
WBCCI# 10258
RETIRED!
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02-12-2020, 01:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 27' Globetrotter
2023 30' Classic
Denver
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 278
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GettinAway
Have you tried resetting the "Gas Fault" reset button, it's the last button on the right with a triangle symbol? Should be flashing red if the refrigerator wouldn't start in gas mode and it must be reset to try to light it again.
Dave S
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02-12-2020, 02:03 PM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Wow! Thank you!! I’m going to try this right now!
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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02-12-2020, 02:10 PM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GettinAway
Wow! Thank you!! I’m going to try this right now!
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Dave!! That’s it! Fired right up!! We are in business!! Thank you so much!!!!
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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02-12-2020, 02:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 27' Globetrotter
2023 30' Classic
Denver
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 278
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Glad I could help, sometimes it is the simple things.
Dave S
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02-12-2020, 02:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,401
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WOOHOO!!! This is the value of AirForums. I learned something today too!
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2021 Northern-Lite 10-2 & F350 DRW PSD, 600W Solar/Victron/600A BattleBorn
146 nights 31,000 miles (first 10 months!)
Sold: 2018 GT27Q, 74 nights 12,777 miles
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles
Sold: 2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
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02-12-2020, 05:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1998 36' Land Yacht Widebody
Shepherdstown
, West Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 802
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If problems exist again and resetting does not help; considering its 9 years old, might want to check the control board inside the exterior compartment.
Mine is also a 3way Dometic model #RM4873. It is great on 12v or electric but never started on propane when I purchased it from original owner. Age and non-use can affect electronics. After the board was replaced its like new again.
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02-12-2020, 05:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by link2dks
GettinAway
Have you tried resetting the "Gas Fault" reset button, it's the last button on the right with a triangle symbol? Should be flashing red if the refrigerator wouldn't start in gas mode and it must be reset to try to light it again.
Dave S
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Applause!
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02-12-2020, 06:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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Yay...!!!! Most of the time it’s something simple. We all learn something new.
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02-12-2020, 07:25 PM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,607
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Amazing how easy it was to “fix”. Interesting in that I talked to three AS dealers in various parts of the country and customer service in JC twice, and no one said that the flashing alarm on the right was a button. Quick reset and working like a champ. I was also surprised that this dometic fridge is made in Germany.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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