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06-29-2007, 07:46 PM
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Rivet Master 
1978 31' Excella 500
Venice
, California
Join Date: May 2006
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"Old father William the young man said..."
My mother burped ME when I was a wee one and I'm still goin' strong and still cool although I don't relish standing on my head as much as I used to.
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'78 Excella 500,"The Silver Pullit". vacuum over hydraulic disc brakes, center bath, rear twin. '67 Travelall 1200 B 4X4 WBCCI 3737
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06-29-2007, 08:16 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excella CM
My mother burped ME when I was a wee one and I'm still goin' strong and still cool although I don't relish standing on my head as much as I used to.
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06-29-2007, 09:47 PM
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Rivet Master 
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
, BC
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,790
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excella CM
My mother burped ME when I was a wee one and I'm still goin' strong and still cool although I don't relish standing on my head as much as I used to.
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Of course you probably learned that 3 six packs will also cause you to burp yourself so she obviously was a good teacher. I cannot remember my mother burping me, you have quite a memory.
Barry
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06-29-2007, 09:56 PM
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Rivet Master 

2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,915
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The Burpathon Continues...
Devoted to the notion that more is better (and with due respect to Excella CM's Mum), I have stood the Dometic on its head for the night. I will turn it upright again tomorrow and continue collecting statistics. After all, inquiring minds want to know, if one burp is good, are two burps better?
Sincerely,
The Burpmeister
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2020 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab 6.2L Max Tow Four Corners Unit WBCCI #5783
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06-30-2007, 09:43 AM
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Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,440
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You guys (excella) are on to me.....you see the special skills required in order to oversee this operation are aquired at a very young age - it starts with your mother then as you come of age and are able to drink large quantities of beer you refine the extensive burping skills required (hick) to move on to Airstream refergerators.
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06-30-2007, 09:57 AM
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Old Paint, rolling again.
1973 Argosy 20
Lorain County
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2004
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I'm still trying to decifer the stats...what are the Delta columns for? That's some beermeister term right? Also, did you do the second burp on 6-26 while continuing to run the fan?
Thanks,
Steve
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06-30-2007, 10:21 AM
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,393
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Do NOT try this at home!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
If you had the six packs you might have tried to burp it without removal from the trailer. 
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I actually DID see someone who tried to do this on I-80 in Wyoming during the trip to Oregon....................The only problem was that they tried to do the 'burping' while the trailer was attached to their tow vehicle and rolled BOTH of them several times! While this manuever might have saved the fridge, it sure was hard in the trailer  .
Unfortunately, not much was remaining of either vehicle.....and I'm sure that the fridge was not in operating condition after this either, as both vehicles were widely scattered along the shoulder of the highway  .
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06-30-2007, 03:16 PM
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Rivet Master 

2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,915
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The Burpometer Explained...
Quote:
Originally Posted by sfixx
I'm still trying to decifer the stats...what are the Delta columns for? That's some beermeister term right? Also, did you do the second burp on 6-26 while continuing to run the fan?
Thanks,
Steve
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The "Delta" is the difference between ambient temperature and the temperature in the freezer or fridge as the case may be.
The fan was installed on 6-16.
The unit was burped on 6-25.
The @ means straight 110 v AC without control unit.
The Burpmeister and the entire Burpathon staff appreciate your interest. Tomorrow we will begin collecting statistics following the Second Burp.
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2020 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab 6.2L Max Tow Four Corners Unit WBCCI #5783
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06-30-2007, 03:44 PM
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Rivet Master 
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,166
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Quote:
herrgirdner: Long ago, (probably 20 years) I lived in Germany and had a VW camper with an Electrolux fridge. It quit working, and I was advised by a German RV tech to take it out, and "burp" it. Did so, and the fridge worked well until we sold the camper in '96. Mind you, this was not a Dometic, nor was it in an Airstream.....
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Interestingly enough, that Electrolux was probably the same as a Dometic. Dometic started out as the US marketing name for Electrolux. Dometic has become the main name for the RV product company, but the story is complex. If you want to see the details, go to Dometic: Milestones.
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07-30-2007, 07:41 PM
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Rivet Master 

2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,915
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Own the Dometic Made Famous in This Thread!...
Check the classified adds on these forums. This burped and fully functioning is now available to the highest bidder who removes it or pays to have it shipped. Airstream Haven has been sold, and everything must go to the bare walls!
I and my fellow burpmeisters can offer no assurances regarding the long term benefits of burping.
Be the first Airstream owner on your block to own a back-up, fully burped, refrigerator. Take it with you on camping trips. The possibilities are endless!
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2020 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab 6.2L Max Tow Four Corners Unit WBCCI #5783
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07-30-2007, 08:30 PM
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Ah, it does my heart good
A thread containing solid fact, quixotic humor and beer drinking. Does it get any better?
As Dolly Parton said to her plastic surgeon, "Thanks for the mammaries"
Paula
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07-30-2007, 08:32 PM
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,329
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Does it get any better?
oops
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07-27-2009, 04:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
1994 25' Excella
Wilmington
, Delaware
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 14
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Reviving the Dometic burp thread
Coaxing the Dometic RM-3604 "Royale" in my 94 Excella to begin cooling hasn't been successful. The unit is level and there's plenty of propane, 12" of propane pressure, or 120VAC. The boiler tube and absorption tank both heat up like before; it just doesn't seem to want to cool down. There's a nice blue flame
The access door vents are clear. The roof vent is clear. And no interior modifications have been made to the ventspace for the fridge.
Yes the weather here is Delaware is a little on the muggy side but I can't seem to get either the freezer or the fridge to the cool side of eighty degrees.
I've been studying this fridge forum and I've learned a great deal...
...but before I order a new fridge or a rebuilt cooling unit I decided I couldnt resist trying to "burp" the unit.
I pulled the fridge, checked and cleaned the boiler tube and baffle. They weren't sooty anyway. By the time the unit was ready to be turned upside down it had reached ambient temperature. This led me to ask this question:
Is it better to have the cooling unit warm when burping? Assuming, that is, no heat is being applied in the boiler tube via either AC or propane, should the inversion (burp) be done at a time when all the components are at ambient temp or warmed up?
Another question, (and half-serious) would some kind of massaging vibrations help with the burp? I thought of strapping the handle of my orbital sander to a supporting metal piece on the cooling unit and turning it on while the unit was inverted.
Many thanks for the helpful information you have already shared.
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07-27-2009, 06:15 PM
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Rivet Master 
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Boulder Creek
, California
Join Date: Nov 2008
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I think if the vibrations helped it would be enough to just take the rig out for a rough ride. Chances are that it could do damage to induce vibrations like that.
It shouldn't make much difference what the temperature is, as you are trying to move or break-up an air bubble in the lines.
There are two kinds of blockage though, and burping seems to be effective with an air bubble only, not a crystalline buildup. I would burp first and check the results. If its not improving with that I would do like Artstream does: beat it with a stick! He reached behind his refer with a stick and played calliope on the tubes back there. It worked for his unit!
At that point it would have been going to the dump anyway, so why not take out some of those pent-up aggressions on it? If I had to buy a new $1,000.00 fridge I would want to beat the heck out of something, and what better to use than your old one?
Cheers, Rich
P.S. My fridge is 45 years old and still making the gin syrupy! Ya gotta love that!
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07-27-2009, 06:37 PM
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Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,440
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You all are missing one very important step in the frig burping job - that is you need at least a six pack of beer for the project - I've done 2 friges and both times my friends were sceptical it would work - even my buddy who is a top notch RV mechanic - but lo and behold it worked! The first one I did was still running great after 5 years! - That one took about 3 six packs to complete..
Ken J.
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07-27-2009, 08:04 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast

1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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Burping and beer. A combination like that makes sense to me.
Brad
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07-27-2009, 08:12 PM
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Rivet Master 
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Boulder Creek
, California
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,177
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Please forgive the lack of reference to beer in my earlier post.
Rich
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07-27-2009, 08:21 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
1994 25' Excella
Wilmington
, Delaware
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 14
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Burping and six packs
Okay. I knew it was only a matter of minutes before the theories started reappearing about the number of six packs needed to successfully complete the burp.
There's only one place in that fridge where I want the six packs and that place isn't close to getting cold, even a little.
All I want is another four months out of it. Working on the fridge is a great excuse to use in say, December, when I need to "be alone in my mancave." It is ridiculous to buy ice to keep my beer cold while I work on my fridge. The Airstream purchase was intended to escape irony, not create more of it.
My eighteen hour burp inducting inversion didn't help. BTW, I can play "76 Trombones" using the coils as a xylophone. That hasn't helped either, obviously. Tonight I left the fridge on (well at least the little flame bulb was on) and before I left I reached up through the the access panel and gave the old girl a good spanking all up and down that cooling unit.
You're right. It did make me feel better. (And cheaper than two six packs.)
Tomorrow morning, if there's no cooling happening in that unit, I'm gonna pull the fridge again and whack it good -while it's inverted and the coils are warm. Then turn it upright and give it another day.
Then I'm gonna find that inspiring thread JohnHD posted on this forum a few years ago showing how he replaced a cooling unit in a fridge almost exactly like mine. I reread it the other night and almost got inspired to swap out the cooling unit. Of course, he made it all look easy, taking photos of his hands as he completed the job. Like a friggin infomercial.
Thanks for the help. Really. Thanks.
Tom T.
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07-28-2009, 12:36 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excella CM
I did my big Servel at home years ago and it has gone on in burpetuity. 
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Best one I've heard in a long while!
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07-28-2009, 05:33 PM
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Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
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Viking - its ok - its a step that gets left out by those who are not professional burpers.
Ken J.
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