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01-16-2007, 06:15 PM
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#21
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2 Rivet Member 
1962 24' Tradewind
Seneca
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 21
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pics/measurements
Here are a couple pics of the fridge...if they seem odd, it's because it's sitting upside down, and I inverted the pictures so they're right side up...measurements are...width of cabinet..approx. 27"...depth of cabinet...21"...height of cabinet...39"...48" from top of cabinet to floor..
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01-16-2007, 06:26 PM
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#22
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farmsc
Here are a couple pics of the fridge...if they seem odd, it's because it's sitting upside down, and I inverted the pictures so they're right side up...measurements are...width of cabinet..approx. 27"...depth of cabinet...21"...height of cabinet...39"...48" from top of cabinet to floor..
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Looks like an old Dometic MA-50
Andy
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01-16-2007, 06:27 PM
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#23
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Rivet Master 
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,115
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Yeah, that looks similar to my 1960 Dometic refer. Looks like a Klixon valve model. I think Andy is right on, mine is also an M50a. The thread Anyone out there with refer as old as mine? has a bit of info you might be interested in.
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01-16-2007, 07:43 PM
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#24
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2 Rivet Member 
Commercial Member
Currently Looking...
east stroudsburg
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 83
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farmsc
Here are a couple pics of the fridge...if they seem odd, it's because it's sitting upside down, and I inverted the pictures so they're right side up...measurements are...width of cabinet..approx. 27"...depth of cabinet...21"...height of cabinet...39"...48" from top of cabinet to floor..
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looks like a m50...gas only, and boy it's rough!!! I'll look tomorrow on what I got here thats complete..I don't think I could even reconstruct yours..
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01-16-2007, 07:51 PM
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#25
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2 Rivet Member 
1962 24' Tradewind
Seneca
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV_cool
looks like a m50...gas only, and boy it's rough!!! I'll look tomorrow on what I got here thats complete..I don't think I could even reconstruct yours..
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Feel free to give me a call if you'd like...864-723-5348 during the day, if you have anything.
Kevin
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01-17-2007, 04:37 PM
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#26
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Rivet Master 
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Check the make and model of the furnace.
If it's made by "International Oil Burner" DO NOT attempt to light it.
Parts are not available and have not neen for almost 38 years. It was a "JUNKER" when brand new. The originals had over a dozen modifications to them, while still in warranty.
They have a HUGE tendency to explode.
Remove it, bury it, and replace it with a Suburban NT30SP.
Andy
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Andy, would you be willing to elaborate on this problem? Was there a specific component or fault that caused them to explode? Thanks.
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01-17-2007, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugarfoot
Andy, would you be willing to elaborate on this problem? Was there a specific component or fault that caused them to explode? Thanks.
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Specific problem? You bet. Big piece of junk.
There were about 12 recalls or modifications on that "thing" while it was still in warranty.
The biggest problems was the gas valve would leak. Next, the burner log would rust away, while in warranty!!!!!! The pilot light would not stay on. The list goes on and on.
The result of this would make owners tinker with it. As soon as a small leak developed, which was very often, BOOM, as soon as a spark was found.
That furnace makes a great paper weight or boat anchor. Your choice.
Andy
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01-17-2007, 05:41 PM
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#28
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Rivet Master 
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,115
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Thanks Andy. Appreciate the info. I quickly looked up on the web the Suburban model you mentioned and got the impression the blower motor is 12V only. Is there a Suburban model that will run on both 110 and 12V?
BTW farmsc, I didn't mean to hjack your thread. But I really HAD to ask about this furnace.
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01-17-2007, 06:08 PM
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#29
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2 Rivet Member 
1962 24' Tradewind
Seneca
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 21
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go for it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugarfoot
Thanks Andy. Appreciate the info. I quickly looked up on the web the Suburban model you mentioned and got the impression the blower motor is 12V only. Is there a Suburban model that will run on both 110 and 12V?
BTW farmsc, I didn't mean to hjack your thread. But I really HAD to ask about this furnace. 
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Hey, I'm just sitting back, reaping the benefits. The more people post,reply, and reply some more, the more I learn without even having to ask!!
Sure beats being outside in the cold poking around in the AS looking for a electrical panel that I don't believe exists.
Kevin
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01-17-2007, 06:55 PM
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#30
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Gulfport
, Mississippi
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 822
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugarfoot
Thanks Andy. Appreciate the info. I quickly looked up on the web the Suburban model you mentioned and got the impression the blower motor is 12V only. Is there a Suburban model that will run on both 110 and 12V?
BTW farmsc, I didn't mean to hjack your thread. But I really HAD to ask about this furnace. 
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Great question! I need the the same answer.
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01-18-2007, 09:12 AM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Overlander & Sea
Great question! I need the the same answer.
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Park model furnaces are 120 VAC.
RV furnaces are 12 VDC.
There are no combo models that I am aware of.
It is better to add a battery, univolt etc, and have the benefits of running self contained.
If you have a furnace that operates on city power only, then should that power fail, your going to get very cold.
Andy
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01-18-2007, 05:47 PM
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#32
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Rivet Master 
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,115
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Andy, thanks so much for sharing the info. We vintage owners especially appreciate it.
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01-18-2007, 07:05 PM
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#33
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4 Rivet Member 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 261
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Is this the International heater being discussed?
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01-18-2007, 07:36 PM
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#34
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Rivet Master 
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,115
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I think so, Herb. Here's a couple of pics of mine.
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01-18-2007, 08:11 PM
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#35
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2 Rivet Member 
1962 24' Tradewind
Seneca
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 21
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furnace pics??
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Originally Posted by Sugarfoot
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OK, this thread is going along no nicely, why start a new one?
Here are 2 pics I just shot.
1 is under the stove/oven...something is missing...is this my furnace, or parts thereof?
2 is under the sink...I think it may be some sort of water filter??
***CAMPERSKI***If you have a couple free hours one weekend, I'll spring for lunch if you'll ride out to Seneca(well, just south of Seneca on hwy 59) and give me a walkthrough on this TW. There's just so much I don't know what I'm looking at/for.
Thanks, Kevin
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01-18-2007, 08:30 PM
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#36
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4 Rivet Member 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 261
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Kevin,
I think all you have left is the burner box in the back. The fan, gas valve and coil are missing.
The other flying saucer thing is a water filter and on my trailers were plumbed to a separate faucet for drinking water.
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01-18-2007, 08:42 PM
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#37
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2 Rivet Member 
1962 24' Tradewind
Seneca
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbond
Kevin,
I think all you have left is the burner box in the back. The fan, gas valve and coil are missing.
The other flying saucer thing is a water filter and on my trailers were plumbed to a separate faucet for drinking water.
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Well that would 'splain the extra hole next to the faucet.
As far as the furnace, is what's left part of the forbidden one?
Or can I find replacement parts, or will it be cheaper to replace all, or can I even find a replacement?
Wow, I think I love this site.
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01-18-2007, 09:00 PM
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#38
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4 Rivet Member 
1969 27' Overlander
Pickens
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 293
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I'll buy lunch
Quote:
Originally Posted by farmsc
OK, this thread is going along no nicely, why start a new one?
Here are 2 pics I just shot.
1 is under the stove/oven...something is missing...is this my furnace, or parts thereof?
2 is under the sink...I think it may be some sort of water filter??
***CAMPERSKI***If you have a couple free hours one weekend, I'll spring for lunch if you'll ride out to Seneca(well, just south of Seneca on hwy 59) and give me a walkthrough on this TW. There's just so much I don't know what I'm looking at/for.
Thanks, Kevin
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Just love to get to look! I'm still learnin myself....but I have found out how to "NOT" do a few things!
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01-18-2007, 09:03 PM
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#39
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4 Rivet Member 
1969 27' Overlander
Pickens
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 293
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I think I'd go with a new one....you can even check Camping World. They have one off of I-26 in Spartanburg...and a pretty good parts staff. Todd's rv off of I-26 above Hendersonville has alot of parts, can get you what you want...but not as helpful...and really dont share a passion for aluminum
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01-18-2007, 09:05 PM
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#40
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4 Rivet Member 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 261
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I think its the forbidden one and the part you have left was one of the bad parts (burner inside of the box in the back). I haven't even tried the two I have but they look rusty.
What I'll try to do is get a new Suburban and try to make it work with the original outside cover.
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