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04-03-2007, 11:44 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
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So close and yet Sa-fari (adventures with our new 1971)
Big excitement...We've just purchased a gorgeous 1971 Safari from another forum member. And now that we have it, there are a few things we'd like to have done. Is there a place in the forums to learn about recommended RV service centers? We are in Portland, Oregon.
Thanks much.
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04-03-2007, 12:10 PM
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
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Based on my recent experience with Sutton in Eugene, OR I cannot recommend them. I can recommend Airstream of Spokane.
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Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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04-03-2007, 12:20 PM
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hi dmroot and welcome to a/s ownership...
a/s lists all dealers and factory approved service centers on their web site....
still most people (with older units) are not willing to pay service center hourly rates...
buying parts and diy repairs, like home improvements is the norm...
most, but not all NON a/s rv service centers will not or do not like working on a/s...
many reasons for this.
still there are good shops who can and will repair or replace specific items....
axles, hubs, wheel bearings, water pumps, water heaters, fridges, a/c, jack assemblies, lp gas appliances and so on....
cosmetic issues and interior design upgrades are an entirely different beast...
again like hiring someone to remodel a room at home.
the parts aren't so expensive but labor is....
especially if done poorly...
i'm sure someone will offer up some repair spots in oregon....
but you might get more from the forums by starting a thread specifically on YOUR trailer.
post some pictures, ask some specific questions and read some of the many repair threads....
what needs to be done,
how much are you willing to do and
what's the budget?
happy travels
2air'
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04-03-2007, 12:40 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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Great points. We are pretty darned handy but some of this is just new to us. The forums will be a huge resource (have been already!) but we may want to pay for certain expertise having to do with the running gear. Hopefully there will be some good resources here in the Northwest.
I also like the idea of starting a thread in the Safari area of the site, that would help us a lot...and get more perspectives on issues we may encounter during our update process.
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04-03-2007, 02:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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Specifically we'd like to have a professional look at the brakes, shocks, axles, bearings. And we need new tires.
Has anyone had this type of work done in Oregon or southern Washington?
Here's a picture of the new beauty:
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04-03-2007, 03:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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Our new 71 Safari needs some updating
And while I am asking questions (and have been newly moved to the Safari forum) I will ask one more:
The inside of our trailer had some modifications done on the kitchen cabinet fronts (only) and overhead storage compartments (fronts only). You can see what I mean in the attached picture. Light colored wood has been bolted on the fronts of the existing wood-grain laminate framing.
I'd like to restore it back to the rolling wood-grain laminate type if possible. Does anyone have a recommended resource for new fronts?
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04-03-2007, 05:42 PM
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ok dmroot...
NOW u r rolling!
next think up a catchy-kitchy name for the thread and ask a mod to change it...
something like...
'adventures in my pretty safair' or
'rockin' and rollin' in a 70s safari' or
'surfin' safari'
ok u get the idea
70s style tambour doors are often removed and discarded during renovations....
so vintage spare parts are sometimes available here 4 the price of shipping....
i've seen several folks offer up their tambour bits.
there are still tambour door products available....
a quick google...
Tambour Doors, Panels, Wallcovering, Roll Top Desks, Wood and Storage Products: National Products, Inc.
Winona Manufacturing: Decor Tambour, Ceiling Systems, Kitchen Cabinet Doors
TAMBOUR DOORS AND TRACKS
and there are plenty more....
vintage tambours can be repaired but it is time consuming to reglue the backing...
as for the running gear,
any qualified rv/trailer service shop should be able to check out your set up.
we've got a whole bunch of n.wetters on the forum to suggest shops.
and get to a forums rally asap! you will get lots of advice first hand....
and good food, good friends and good times....
there is a rally memorial day weekend, just up the road.
cheers
2air'
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all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.
we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
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04-03-2007, 07:35 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Like 2 air said, any competant trailer shop should be able to do your brakes/bearings /axels and any other running gear related problems. As far as a service center to work on the rest of the components in the trailer, I would ......................................
FIRST: find a service center who is familiar with Airstreams and WILL work on them
SECOND: see how many CERTIFIED MASTER RV TECHS they employ. This rating is earned only after intensive schooling in many areas of RV repair and scoring 85 or above on a 5-6 hour exam. Any CMRVT should know what they are doing and are WORTH the price you pay for their services. (OK, I'm a little biased here, but you get my drift!)
THIRD: I'll be in Hood River for most of July ans August and would be glad to answer any questions you may have.
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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04-03-2007, 09:04 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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Thanks for the guidance you two.
2air: here's my idea for a catchy title - So close and yet Sa-fari...Ha! Or, maybe I will think about it a little more...
We are knee deep wading through the tambour links. They are so 70s-orama that I wouldn't have expected them to be so readily available. In addition to checking with the suppliers I will post a "wanted" in the forums just in case others aren't as fond of 70s laminate as I am.
Lew: the advice on the Certified Master RV Tech is great to know. It sounds like you are choosing the right months to be back in Hood River
More soon: there is cleaning to do, and a dinette to build...
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04-03-2007, 09:10 PM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmroot
- So close and yet Sa-fari...
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Is that a request? I can make that happen...
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04-03-2007, 09:15 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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Yes please. The official request would be:
So close and yet Sa-fari (adventures with our new 1971)
Thank you thank you
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04-03-2007, 09:17 PM
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Retired.
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmroot
Yes please. The official request would be:
So close and yet Sa-fari (adventures with our new 1971)
Thank you thank you
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Your wish is my command. It is done.
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Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
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04-03-2007, 09:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,080
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Great name and avatar!
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04-03-2007, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmroot
So close and yet Sa-fari (adventures with our new 1971)
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now THATS a great title!
i hope you have lots of fun here...
i love tambour doors,
been thinking about adding a tambour fly...
to my drawers...
cheers
2air'
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all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.
we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
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04-03-2007, 09:25 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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Thanks Terry! I am set for a spring full of interesting posting now.
And...I am slightly jealous of Terry's John Wayne pic!
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04-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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Wierd wierd tire wear pattern
The work on the new Safari commences:
Today we put on four new tires that look just great. The wierd thing was the wear pattern on the old front two tires. Take a look at this picture. Does anyone have an idea on why the front tires would have worn this way?
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04-07-2007, 12:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,369
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmroot
The work on the new Safari commences:
Today we put on four new tires that look just great. The wierd thing was the wear pattern on the old front two tires. Take a look at this picture. Does anyone have an idea on why the front tires would have worn this way?
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Hi, from that picture, it looks like many miles or many years of being out of balance. And as for George Sutton RV, I bought my trailer from him, got a good deal, and have had good service from them too. In the service business there is always some happy customers and some unhappy customers.
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2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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04-07-2007, 12:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2003 22' International CCD
Kiln
, Mississippi
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,779
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmroot
The work on the new Safari commences:
Today we put on four new tires that look just great. The wierd thing was the wear pattern on the old front two tires. Take a look at this picture. Does anyone have an idea on why the front tires would have worn this way?
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Looks like some trailer tires I have seen on a friends trailer (flatbed for a tractor). He seemed to always have issues with the brakes and they would lock up and he would just drag it and put flat spots on the tires. Maybe?
Mike
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04-07-2007, 12:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,013
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Tire wear
Looks like an alignment problem between the front axle and the rear one to me. Then again if the axles/running gear haven't been aligned on the trailer that might be the reason for the excessive wear pattern on the front set of tires. Maybe Andy from Inland or Lewster could shed some light on this problem better than I, but I would bet running gear alignment will fix this problem. Best to do it now while the tires are new. Good to see another Safari Bwanna! Happy Trails, Ed
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2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
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"My tire was thumping, I thought it was flat. When I looked at the tire, I noticed your CAT!" Burma Shave
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04-07-2007, 08:07 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 74
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A couple more pics
I appreciate your answers and ideas. Whatever led to that ugliness needs to be fixed...
The first picture (above) is the best. It shows the depth of some of the wierd diagonal cupping. But here are a couple others.
We plan on doing the brakes next. In fact we got the new tires in preparation for bringing it to a brakes place. I don't quite understand the concept of alignment of the front and rear tires yet (I will do some research)...and we need to do an axle assessment...
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