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Old 04-09-2007, 07:38 PM   #21
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It leaks

OK, with the tires replaced and an appointment at the brakes/shocks/bearings/alignment place we've started on the next projects.

We aren't so fond of the pergo that is in there now...we'd like to go with a marmoleum. And it would be nice to see what the subfloor looks like. So today we took out the floor.

And it leaks.

There is a wet area in the right streetside corner (our trailer is sloping toward the front slightly in its parking spot on our driveway). And a slight wet area by the door. All of this was disguised by the pergo and silvery (waterproof) underlayment that was used. I am glad to have it out in the open!

But now the question is: How do we find the leaks?

My first guess is full on seam resealing, all new window gaskets, re-work the little skylights...hmmmmm.

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hi dmroot

i'm not a restoration guy...

so perhaps one will give ya better info...

search leaks, finding leaks, fixing leaks, skin leaks and so on...

or scan the exterior restoration threads.

as i understand there are at least 2 approaches...

1. pressurize the trailer and spray soapy water on skin/windows/rivets or the other usual suspects...

2. hose the outside while someone else looks at the insides...

this might be tricky withot removing the curtains, drapes and other soft impediments...

and with 2 layers of skin & the insulation..

good luck...

those old tires are BUMPY!

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Old 04-10-2007, 12:13 AM   #23
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tires...

gee, that's some odd wear going on. One photo looks like the wheels locked up for quite some time to get worn down like that... the others look like maybe broken belts inside the tire?

New tires, brakes, and balancing... I'd go from there.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:41 PM   #24
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We have our brakes/shocks/bearings/balancing appointment at a place called Kaiser Alignment in Eugene, OR. That will be a big help. No need to turn our nice new tires into the same old bumpy mess...

Here are a couple pics of the damp spots (by the door and streetside front), it was too dark to take these photos last night after the pergo came out.

Since the dampness that may take a while to track down, I am thinking of using my favorite carpet squares from FLOR (www.flor.com) instead of a more permanent marmoleum. That way we can more easily remove the carpet to ensure the floor stays aired-out and dry as we work to fix the leaks...but we have the carpet to improve comfort for short trips.

And, a question for you guys: what are the two hoses shown in the pictures below? They drip for a while after it rains and they are located near the curbside rear (sort of under the Safari's bathroom closet)....
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:54 PM   #25
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FW Drain Lines

The two drain hoses, are they near the hot water heater? They look like drain lines for the fresh water lines on my Caravel. I have one back there that drains the hot water and cold water lines - there is a valve inside behind my vanity to shut them off. Have you had the water system pressureized yet to see if there are leaks?

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Old 04-23-2007, 11:34 AM   #26
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The two drain hoses seem to be from the water system, but are across the trailer from the hot water heater (which is in the closet across from the back gaucho). The hoses come down from the bathroom closet. More investigation/experimentation is needed on my part.

Also in the bottom of the bathroom closet is a black water-pump-like piece of equipment that has two dangling wires. The 'real' water pump is under the kitchen sink. I would take a pic to share, but our airstream is off having brake/bearing/shock work right now. More investigation is needed on this too...

In the meantime, I've been shopping. IKEA foam matresses seem just perfect for replacing the old side gaucho foam. They have a "Beddinge" matress that is hinged in the middle and easily folds into a couch. It came in four different firmness levels. Can't wait to try it out. I also bought two twin matresses that I plan on carving up with an electric knife and turning into dinette cushions.
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:47 PM   #27
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Back in action!

Our Safari is back! It was towed home on Tuesday and is ready for further renovation.

Here's a glimpse of what we've done:
The gorgeous new wheels plus all that you can't see: new shocks, bearings, and new disc brakes (love them!)....And new aluminum tanks too.

And a small success today: we got the step pulled down and reattached! Our manual says there should also be an extension step we could attach...hmmm. Does anyone know where we can find one? I checked the Inland and Vintage Trailer web sites...
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:35 AM   #28
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Retro carpet has arrived

Here's a quick glimpse of the carpet that arrived in time for a temporary installation before our maiden voyage over Memorial Day.

I love it.

But now it needs to sit and await the rest of the restoration...
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:39 AM   #29
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Innovative dinette construction

I am stealing a bit of my husbands glory by posting these first pictures of his innovative dinette construction for our Safari.

He's using a 3/8" walnut ply and aluminum to create a really lightweight and gorgeous dinette for us.

Here are a first few pictures...
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:20 PM   #30
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If you give a pig a pancake

Have you see that children's book "If you give a pig a pancake"?

Redoing an Airstream is just like that.

On the maiden voyage the kitchen faucet leaked. So we went to Home Depot to buy a new faucet...
While we were at it, the sink was quite shallow so it would be nice to replace it...
If we replace the sink then we will need a new counter...
If we replace the counter then we would need to rebuild the poor hacked up old cabinet (and it would be nice to have a wonderful new cabinet to match the new dinette)...
If we take out the cabinet then we should go ahead and work on replacing the 36 year old heater...
And the 18 year old water pump...
And while we are at it we could put a shiny new stove in there...

So...the current status is: cabinet is out, new heater has been picked up. Lots of forum surfing going on to get informed before the rest of it starts...Whew!
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Here's a quick glimpse of the carpet that arrived in time for a temporary installation before our maiden voyage over Memorial Day.

I love it.

But now it needs to sit and await the rest of the restoration...
Ooh! You got FLOR tiles! I'm quite fond of those and may use them when I build my house next year!
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:39 PM   #32
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Ooh! You got FLOR tiles! I'm quite fond of those and may use them when I build my house next year!
Yes! FLOR is really great. We put them in our house (floors are sheet linoleum over radiant concrete) and they have been wonderful.

I think they will be perfect for the airstream because we'll never know if we got all the leaks and they are so easy to remove/clean/replace.
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:11 PM   #33
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I am stealing a bit of my husbands glory by posting these first pictures of his innovative dinette construction for our Safari.

He's using a 3/8" walnut ply and aluminum to create a really lightweight and gorgeous dinette for us.

Here are a first few pictures...
Just a correction on my better half's post. I used 1/4" walnut ply. Each box weighs less than 10 lbs.

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Old 06-30-2007, 04:39 PM   #34
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No more tambour worries!

Due to the help of Airstreamforum advice, we've successfully replaced the missing overhead tambour doors with sliding frosted lexan doors.

The tricky part was explained on another thread by 'tphan'....he described how he used a saw kerf as the sliding channel.

We found lexan sheets at the local Home Depot and my husband cut them to size, cut the holes and then sanded them to frost them. Whew...those overhead cabinets were just sitting there staring at us and now they are done!
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very nice adapation...

light, functional, modern and cool!

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Great job,, cabinet fronts look just like my Bambi CCD!!!! donna
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:00 PM   #37
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Fridge is in place!

Well, progress is fast and furious around here and I am catching up the thread with some new pics...

The swanky new fridge is in place. We've replaced the bulkhead dividers with new 1/8" walnut ply. It is amazing how gorgeous and retro it looks...but it still coordinated with the laminate in the back half of the trailer.

The idea is to keep the same vintage plans/style but update the finishes.

You can see the styrofoam my husband used to achieve the zero clearance around the top and sides of the fridge...we plan on putting a piece of the aforementioned walnut ply in the front panel of the fridge.
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And now a counter too...

The counter over the fridge is done! It looks just great. The pattern is one of the retro-style ones that Formica offers. We are very pleased with the progress...

Meanwhile, I finished the upholstered cushions too. That dinette requires a lot of foam! As usual the advice from the forums was very helpful: wrapping the foam in batting really made the finished cushions look professional.
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I've been waiting to see if anyone was going to use one of the new Formica patterns! I'm tempted to use the Boomerang pattern in mine.
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I checked the Inland and Vintage Trailer web sites...
Don't just check Inlands website. Give him a call he has a ton of stuff he does not put on his website.

Your renovation looks fantastic!
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