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Old 11-05-2014, 04:15 PM   #161
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A few photo's, you can see the difference with the clear coat removed, looks new. Another of the sliders we put under the couch because the tambor was shot. We put in a hood that had a rear exhaust, I had to cut a hole in the top and cover the rear exhaust then Pam used some aluminum flex vent pipe and aluminum duct tape, that thing really blows! One of the pex water lines still in the dry run past the valves I have near the water heater, still figuring out the rear bath. I know the bath should have been done first, it is a tight fit.We will get it in.

I found a picture at the Habitat for Humanity Restore for $5 on Halloween, awesome deal everything in the store was 50% off so I got it for $2.50. Gonna mount it somewhere probably centered in that location.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:51 PM   #162
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Absolutely LOVE that poster! If you ever want to sell, let me know first!

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Old 11-05-2014, 08:20 PM   #163
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I think the sliding doors are very nice alternative to the trambor "roll tops". You can still get the plastic bins in there. My trailer has simple doors hinged at the bottom. The latches don't keep them closed anymore. I figure out something.

Enjoy doing your bathroom. It's a big project in it self! I had lots of pieces to make.

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Old 11-05-2014, 08:49 PM   #164
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That poster goes amazingly well with your decor!
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:55 PM   #165
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That poster goes amazingly well with your decor!
Yep I was amazed when I found it. It matches the marmoleum counter tops. I bought Pam the same poster with Olympic National Park on it she had it framed it hangs in our front room at home, so when we found this one for $2.50 I had to have it for the trailer. Here is a link to many great ones on Amazon.


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Old 11-05-2014, 09:49 PM   #166
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Yep I was amazed when I found it. It matches the marmoleum counter tops. I bought Pam the same poster with Olympic National Park on it she had it framed it hangs in our front room at home, so when we found this one for $2.50 I had to have it for the trailer. Here is a link to many great ones on Amazon.


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Oho!! That IS Marmoleum on the counter! Did you use it on the galley counter as well? Just curious as to how it it is holding up?

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Old 11-06-2014, 08:12 AM   #167
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Oho!! That IS Marmoleum on the counter! Did you use it on the galley counter as well? Just curious as to how it it is holding up?

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yes we do have Marmoleum on the kitchen galley. I had showed Pam at several Starbucks how well it held up as a counter cover. Pam and I are very pleased with the Marmoleum. We were able to buy a remnant in Portland I still have some for future use. I plan on making a stove top cover.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:45 AM   #168
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I found some pics of the interior that is original down to the carpet, we remade the front drapes last spring, they were in tatters.
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Old 11-30-2014, 06:15 PM   #169
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My original shower pan had a crack in it at the drain. When I removed the pan I could not get the drain out of the pan, ended up cracking the pan at the drain. I finally figures out a plan to save the original shower pan. I used the old piece of abs plastic that was under the toilet above the black tank, it was not reuseable.
I cut out a circle and used abs cement and cut a new 3" hole for the drain. I screwed up and had to do glue another piece for the drain cover to sit down in. So we cut a 4" hole for the drain cover and glued on the 3" hole doughnut. Worked out perfect. Kinda hard to explain but I have a few photos.

I cleaned up and painted the old bath fan unit, Looks good. Pam then helped me epoxy paint the bath Original bath sink and shower pan. Here are a few pictures some befores and after.
Oh yeah we have our new toilet and the black water tank is on the way.
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Old 12-01-2014, 05:56 AM   #170
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Well done. ABS plastic is great to work with. Remodeling, restoring a bathroom is both cost and labor intensive. You are well on your way.

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Old 12-19-2014, 05:54 PM   #171
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I received my black water tank from Inca plastics and mounted the toilet to the tank. I was going to use FRP to cover the board the toilet and flange are mounted to. Pam suggested I use the Marmoleum we used on the kitchen cabinet. I think it looks good. Waiting for order from Vintage trailer for the collector and a few other odds and ends. I'm going to use the Hepvo waterless trap instead of a P trap on the shower drain. Next will be the shower pan, sink, finishing the vent pipes and then the collector for all the drains.

Its funny sometimes the smallest of things are the best, I installed a bottle opener for the occasional barley pop! Here are a few pics
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:11 PM   #172
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Hi, is you black tank above or below the subfloor? Maybe you used the Inca Plastics grommet seal for your toilet down pipe.

Great idea to use marmoleum under the toilet. And it looks like you have a Dometic toilet. That's the one I selected just because I was mad at Thetford at the time of purchase. I did have trouble with my Dometic water inlet connection. It has a 3/8" protrusion on the end of the plastic pipe thread. A standard flex water connector won't thread up properly. I ended up stripping the first thread on the toilet inlet. And I ended up removing that dang 3/8" protrusion. Now I can tread the connector tight and compress the gasket as it should be.

Plumbing, always something! That's why we both need a nice "barley popper."

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Hi, is you black tank above or below the subfloor? Maybe you used the Inca Plastics grommet seal for your toilet down pipe.


Great idea to use marmoleum under the toilet. And it looks like you have a Dometic toilet.

That's the one I selected just because I was mad at Thetford at the time of purchase. I did have trouble with my Dometic water inlet connection. It has a 3/8" protrusion on the end of the plastic pipe thread. A standard flex water connector won't thread up properly. I ended up stripping the first thread on the toilet inlet. And I ended up removing that dang 3/8" protrusion. Now I can tread the connector tight and compress the gasket as it should be.


Plumbing, always something! That's why we both need a nice "barley popper."

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I used a threaded toilet flange that screwed into the tank. The tank is the same as the original and it sits on top the floor.
Yes I have the Dometic I believe 311
I will check my connection thanks for the heads up
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Old 12-28-2014, 05:22 PM   #174
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Pam and I were able to save the original wet bath sink and cabinet. We struggled a bit and we got original rivet hole all the holes lined up.

I received the collector for the blackwater drain and gray water. I have to cut bigger hole for the black water valve. Originally I thought I could attach the valve from underneath. No way so I had to remove the blackwater tank to attach the valve. I also have to add an extension for the valve handle.

We had to remove the rear bunk bulkhead again to get the tank back out because we had installed the rear cabinet. Removing the bulkhead made for much more room for me to finish the water lines.

I was able to salvage the black water tank vent pipe. when I removed it I just cut it into two pieces, all I had to do was glue a new coupler. The vent on the curbside for the sink, shower drain will be all new all the way to the collector.

Just need more time getting close to "self contained"
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Old 12-28-2014, 06:44 PM   #175
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Very good. It appears you will use an auxiliary tank for the gray water, or maybe I forgot your gray water plan. Is that the original black water tank? It looks like it might be an above floor tank judging by the photo. I just wonder how the valve fits through the floor and belly pan.

You're Safari is coming together nicely. Good times ahead for you folks.

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Old 12-28-2014, 07:53 PM   #176
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Very good. It appears you will use an auxiliary tank for the gray water, or maybe I forgot your gray water plan. Is that the original black water tank? It looks like it might be an above floor tank judging by the photo. I just wonder how the valve fits through the floor and belly pan.

You're Safari is coming together nicely. Good times ahead for you folks.

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We will use a blue 15 gal tote for gray water when not hooked up to sewer. There is no gray water tank on board. In 1972 the gray water would just run out to the ground when boondocking.
The blackwater tank is new from Inca plastics and sits on the floor. I have to cut a bigger hole for the valve to fit through, the original hole was huge, now I understand why. I have the original piece of belly that has a hole cut for the drain, the slide handle comes out just below the belt trim in the back street side banana wrap.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:48 AM   #177
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Thank you kindly for the good description of how a 72 Safari is made. My 66 had a flat, thin black tank under the subfloor between the frame rails. Interestingly, it had a "utilities port" on the street side belly pan. The idea was to open the "one stop" rear compartment and feed the shore power cord and city water hose through this port for connection. The black tank was drained from the rear also, but you had to open a hatch in the rear belly pan to feed the slinky to the bayonet connector. My 66 owners manual talks about letting gray water run on the ground, or opening the black tank valve and letting gray water back fill the black tank. It also talks about digging a gopher hole to dump the tank contents. My, how times have changed!

I used Inca Plastics too for my black water tank. But mine is a below the floor, between the frame rails type.

Here is a photo of the rear discharge port in the bumper storage compartment, and the rear corner belly wraps. Notice the hole for the power and water drop through. Not very handy.

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Old 01-04-2015, 06:14 PM   #178
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I was going to start working early on the drain vent pipes today but pam locked my set of keys in the trailer and went off to work. I texted her at work but did not get a reply till three hours later that is when she got the text. We were able to get the drain vents in place after she got home from work.

While I was waiting I figured I would make a slide show using a bunch of the pictures we have taken in the past 2 1/2 years. The music is kinda corny but I like it. enjoy
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:38 PM   #179
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1972 23 safari drain

Been working on the vents and drains almost finished. Instead of a p trap at the shower we used a Hepvo valve. I have the sink drain, shower drain routed to the collector, all I have left is to connect the front sink drain. The sink drain is in place to the water heater and through the floor. I just have a short piece to connect to the T near the collector and then the plumbing will be done.

We have to put the bath bulk heads and door in. after that the interior is all most finished just a bunch of touch ups here and there.

That leaves me with the belly pan and gas lines. I can see some light at the end of the tunnel
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:57 PM   #180
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Great build and fast progress.

So I guess you just tied into the main outlet below the black tank valve .

I'm in the process of rebuilding our '69 Tradewind.

I had to take a year off to take care of my wife. She had a cancer that was discovered just after I gutted the trailer. So all of 2013 was spent on her. She is now in remission and looking forward to this years travels in the Tradewind.

I'm just about ready to install a custom bathroom and put the rest of the trailer back together. So yes I'll be installing a large gray tank just ahead of the axles.

Anyway, I'll soon start a build thread from start to finish.

Keep up the great work.
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