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Old 01-09-2015, 01:05 PM   #181
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Great build and fast progress.

So I guess you just tied into the main outlet below the black tank valve .
Glad to hear your wife is doing well, cancer sucks! You are a great husband for standing by for your wife.

Yes I tied into the black tank outlet with no gray tank. We will use a portable gray tank.
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Old 01-09-2015, 06:50 PM   #182
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Thank you.

Ya might want to reconsider installing a gray tank later.

We were at an old Oregon state park and the dump station was 4 miles up the state highway. We were there 3 days in our 13' Casita and needed to dump daily, fortunately I found a empty Host site that had a sewer hook up buried in a bush . What a pain.
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Old 01-10-2015, 08:47 PM   #183
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Plumbing Finished

All the drains are in and working. We tested the water lines today, no leaks!
I'm glad because I checked all the crimp rings on the PEX with the go no go as I crimped them.
We were in Portland today and stopped by Affordable RV to look around and Pam found a great LED light for the bath. The original one was just in my way, I hit my head on it so many times, it just stuck out to far and had sharp edges. The new light is low profile and has a nice smooth round cover, very bright, a great find. Tomorrow we will start finishing the Bath bulkheads. I need to figure out the bath fan, I'm using a smaller than original hose so I need to modify or make some sort of adapter to attach the hose to the fan.

We are now self contained other than gas lines to the stove, water heater and fridge. For now if we have full hook ups, we have a dorm fridge and portable induction cooktop. We also have a nice quiet oil heater that keeps the inside nice and toasty.
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:02 AM   #184
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I bought some 5630 Cool White LED Strips to use in mine. I have a 72 Safari. Cut 2 strips to mount under range hood as it is a dark spot. They run on 12 volts so will tie in to hood fan power with a toggle switch. Have a strip of RGB with controller that I will mount a strip under awning rail area for use at night. Can make it any color or have it flash. Bought all on Ebay and there are videos on youtube. You are doing a great job.
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Old 01-11-2015, 08:58 PM   #185
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I have attached a pic of a 1972 that we have an opportunity to purchase. I am new to all of this and don't know if I want to start with one this rough or not. They are asking $3200. I have attached some pics. Is it worth what they are asking? Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:34 AM   #186
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I have attached a pic of a 1972 that we have an opportunity to purchase. I am new to all of this and don't know if I want to start with one this rough or not. They are asking $3200. I have attached some pics. Is it worth what they are asking? Thanks for the help.
Pam paid $2500 for our 23' Safari. The outside appearance was not bad. We were either going to clean it up a bit and resale for a few bucks or go for it, Pam decided to go for it!
The main issues with ours was the rotten rear floor and 3' of the rear frame. We also had to replace the axles. The axles where the biggest purchase. We hired a welder for the rear frame. We could never get back the value of our time spent. I have just thought of it as an ongoing project, more or less a hobby.
Not sure how big the one you are showing is but 3200 may not be to far off. Being that old I would offer less, you never know. One thing for sure If the axles are original you will need to replace and If it has a rear bath I bet there are some issues back there.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:48 PM   #187
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It is hard to value old Airstreams "as found". I like to think a good frame and shell is worth $5000 because that's what I paid for my 66 Trade Wind. As Pams72 said, you might get your dollar cost back out of the trailer, but you won't get your time spent. You have to assess the trailer for sale as it sets starting from the tires up. Then you will know about how much money and time you need to spend to get it "travel ready".

Some folks find museum pieces that were stored in dry and temp controlled garages and have had very little use. Those trailer are maybe "travel ready" as they were in the 70s. Those trailers are worth more.

You could probably find an Airstream already renovated similar to Pams72 in the $18,000 range. This trailer would be "travel ready" with documentation of all the repairs and upgrades that were made. Every thing works and every thing is new. You could decorate it the way you like and take off.

Come join the hobby of working on and traveling in vintage Airstreams and throw money down the pit like the rest of us have!

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Old 01-13-2015, 04:14 AM   #188
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Had our 72 Safari for 13 years. Paid $5000. Replaced water heater, AC and awning fabric. The rest is in good shape. Had to repair one tambour door. Easy to do. Canvas and white glue. Forgot about Power Inverter. Tows like a dream. 02 Suburban with tow package gets 11.8 on Interstates. Going to put POR-15 on frame this summer after cleaning good. Thought about polishing but that is too much work for an old man. Saw an Airstream Motor Home Saturday. Headed north through Atlanta on I-75. First one seen live.
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Old 02-06-2015, 05:23 PM   #189
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Almost done with rear bath. Been tough putting in the rear bath last when it should have been done first. The original piece behind the toilet seems a bit flimsy. After much consideration I think I will make a new one out of FRP. I will post some pictures when I finish. Not much room to work in in the rear bath and closets. My shoulders are just to wide and kneeling in the shower pan is almost impossible.

Just a heads up for anyone re-building a gutted rear bath START IN THE REAR! and work forward.
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Old 02-08-2015, 06:14 AM   #190
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I agree the bathroom is a difficult area to renovate. My floor was rotted through back there, so I gutted the bath, replaced the subfloor, and started rebuilding with new gray and black water tanks. I left the original door and bulkhead walls in place. I installed a shower, but I now regret it. It is a real space hog and I made it too small. I will work great for 12 year olds!

I admit the Airstream designers did a great job with the rear bath back in 1966. The sink over tub, and the combination window seat and hidden toilet were great ideas, especially considering the Wally Byam requirement of the big window in the back for visibility through the trailer with a rear view mirror.

I've enjoyed following your thread and have learned things from it.

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Old 02-08-2015, 08:23 PM   #191
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A few pictures. We went with original bath layout, re-used as much original we could salvage. Rear slider bath door. LED TV mount can be swung out and watched from the couch or from the bunks. almost finished with rear bath lots of caulking to do in there. We're getting there.
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:17 AM   #192
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Very nice indeed! You're really going to enjoy traveling in your "new" Safari. You folks almost have it done.

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Old 02-12-2015, 06:57 PM   #193
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This on going project has been challenging at times. We had only limited experience and no experience on some of the skills needed for such a project. After taking this on and seeing where we are now, we can say we are pleased to have brought back some life to this trailer.
We would love to do it again with the knowledge we have learned, but only with an unlimited budget and a nice shop to work in. There are so many things we would change. Given the $$$ the entire inside would be new!
We do take pleasure knowing we have re-purposed most of the interior, not the prettiest but it is very comfortable / cozy. When we get the belly and gas lines in the we will call it finished, but then some how we know its never finished.
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Old 03-22-2015, 09:20 AM   #194
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All of our interior lights are now LED's. We added two LED reading lights above the front couch. I had to cut a piece of FRP to cover the hole from the original reading lights because the base of the new one was smaller and there was no place to attach. I ran the wires through a hole in the FRP riveted the FRP to the end cap then screwed the new reading lights to the FRP. Nice lights we got from LED4RV on sale.
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:33 AM   #195
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Pam picked up a new tow vehicle last week. The Nissan Frontier worked OK but we needed something a little bigger. We found a 1999 ford 5.4 L Expedition with low miles. We took it in to the ford dealer to have another transponder key made ($82) only had one. The dealer did a check over and the service manager said we found a good one, all good. Only thing he recommended was to have the coolant changed / flushed.
I'm going to tackle the spark plug coil change. Been doing a ton of research. hope it goes well with out to much grief. will post some pictures later.
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:09 PM   #196
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You're gonna love that Expedition. I understand ignition coils are not too hard to replace. I had and E-350 full size van for many, many years. It was a good tow vehicle. Your new Expedition has a very similar 3/4 ton chassis. It's too bad they aren't made anymore. My neighbor just picked up a used one. His has the diesel engine. Used ones don't stay for sale very long.

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Old 05-31-2015, 04:52 PM   #197
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Update:
We have done some work on the Expedition making it tow ready. We added spring over shocks, new ball joints, wheel alignment, new Michelin tires. I spent a good portion of today figuring the wiring out for the seven way plug. The Expedition came with a four way had to buy a seven way conversion and tap into the 12v and brake controller wires and add relays. I still have not wired the back up lights but all the others work.
One other note about a month after getting the Expedition Pam was on her way to work and a deer ran out on I-5 and ran into the driver's side leaving a few small dents in the perfect body. She was truly bummed. Its not really that bad though, just sucks.
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:11 PM   #198
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I had the week off so I decided to beat the heat and head to Long beach Wa on Wednesday, Pam would be coming down on friday after work. My plan was to stay at the So-wester RV park near Long beach. Well I almost made it but the transmission on the new to us 1999 ford Expedition burned up!
Good thing there was a pull out 1/4 mile from the KOA camp in Ilwaco Wa.
I would like to say Linda and Bobert, mother and son who run this KOA went out of their way to accommodate me. I had the Expedition towed over to Astoria Oregon to get a new Transmission.
Let me just say if you are staying near Long beach Washington, I highly recomend this KOA park. It is open with nice Lawns, clean bathrooms and showers and is close to the Long beach peninsula. Again I have to thank Linda and Bobert they are truly very good people.
Pam should be here soon thank goodness i need her suport.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:15 PM   #199
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Got a call today from the guy fixing the transmission, the cost is going to be around $3750 or so. He is beefing up the transmission for better towing. I will be going to Astoria on Thursday to get the Expedition and pick up the Airstream at the KOA. Gonna take it easy on the way home.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:43 PM   #200
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Glad you'll be up and towing again. Tow vehicle problems are common with us Airstreamers. It's like catching the flu, unpleasant but we get over it. Now you have a solid transmission in your vehicle, so you will have to dive it for a long time.

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