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10-25-2008, 04:12 AM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Foster
As far as making California two states, I have a home at each end. Believe me, the only difference would be location.
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. . . and I guess we could always use a another Feinstein and Boxer in the U. S. Senate.
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10-25-2008, 05:52 AM
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Rivet Master
San Angelo
, Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,254
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Don't forget Sam Farr in Congress...I lived in Monterey for five years.
$3.44 for Diesel yesterday.
$2.19 for Regular.
I was watching the O'Reilly Factor the other night, and he posted an interesting statistic: while the price of oil has fallen about 49% in the last year, the price of gasoline has only fallen about 25%.
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Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD
2004 F-350 King Ranch
AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
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10-25-2008, 06:32 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Originally Posted by CrawfordGene
What altitude was that gas at? Regular is 87 octane at sea level, but 85 here in Colorado. I think it changes at around 3,000'.
We've done this before, but 14.9¢ after WW II during gas wars in NJ. I wasn't driving.
Gene
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Great news that the fuel prices are coming down. But so is the economy, a lot of folks won't be be able to fill regardless the cost.
It's crazy here in NYS, Albany.. $2.70 to $2.85, here in WNY still $3.30.
First job ESSO station 1962. A station on three corners of the intersection. 13.9cents. Competition would be good!!!
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10-25-2008, 08:02 AM
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Colonial Airstream NJ
Airstream Dealer
1961 16' Bambi
1997 19' "B" Van Airstream 190
Millstone Township
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 578
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$2.19 Regular - Costco Brick/Lakewood, NJ
$3.79 Diesel - Exxon Brick, NJ
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10-25-2008, 11:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
ozark
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,040
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Ozark Missouri
Un-leaded $2.09 last night I paid $2.06 with discount card. I'm lovin this!
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10-25-2008, 11:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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We just dropped below $65.00 a barrel and headed for $50.00 soon.
Now can anyone explain why diesel, a waste by product of gas, is still at $3.49 a gallon while gas is at $2.59 and heating oil around $2.30 a gallon. Add $.35 tax cents to heating oil and you should have diesel.
Could it be that the majority of diesel users, trucking and rail, have a fuel surcharge pass through and just do not care about the cost of fuel. During the height of the pricing I talked to one trucker who said he did not care if it went to $5.00 a gallon as long as he was making money on the surcharge.
Please don't come back with the world supply and demand argument. That did not hold water when gas was at it's high and sure won't hold water now.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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10-25-2008, 11:47 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Lone Jack
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
Please don't come back with the world supply and demand argument. That did not hold water when gas was at it's high and sure won't hold water now.
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Why then?
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Larry
"Turleen", the '57 Flying Cloud
Lone Jack, MO
Pop.528
"You better learn it fast; you better learn it young"-John Fogerty
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10-25-2008, 12:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,804
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Doe
I want you all to put your thinking cap on for this one.
One of the worst jokes ever on ALL of us Americans.
Does anybody out there have any memory of the reason given for the establishiment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY formed during the Carter Administration?
Anybody?
Anything?
NO? Did not think so!
Bottom line...We have spent several hundreds of Billions dollars in support of an agency the reason which not one person can remember.
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY WAS INSTITUTED ON 8-2-1977 TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL!!!
Pretty efficient huh?
Now 31 years later the DOE has a budget of $24.2 BILLION a year,they have 16,000 employees and over100,000 contract employees!!!!
What a grate job they have done!!!
HOW ABOUT THAT FOR A SLAP IN THE TAXPAYERS FACE?THEY THINK WE ARE ALL STUPID.
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10-25-2008, 01:24 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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$2.619 at Safeway with 10¢ discount in Pueblo West, Colo., yesterday.
Wholesale gas closed yesterday at $1.48 and sweet crude in NY closed at $64.15. Retail gas should be around $2.30. A week or two ago the national average difference was around $1.25 and it's shrinking and eventually will come back to about 80¢ nationally. "Sticky prices" is the way retailers and distributers make some more money when prices come down.
Diesel prices are higher because there's more demand in Europe for diesel than there is for gasoline. Excess refined gas is shipped to the US from Europe, but there's little or no excess diesel to send to us. In the summer more gas and less diesel is refined in the US because there's more demand for it and people who use gas outnumber those using diesel—that could be about votes. While supply and demand is not the only factor in prices, it is part of it. Certainly it is used as an excuse by speculators, hoarders and monopolists. Trying to sort out the truth is difficult because of all the secrecy in the oil and gas industry.
It is inevitable that lower gas prices will mean more people drive, thereby increasing demand and prices. When is the only question. Lower fuel prices mean less incentive to develop clean domestic alternatives for energy, something we really need. I like paying less for gas as much as anyone, but I am concerned about the effect of lower prices for our future. Alternative energy costs more now, but with economy of scale it will be cheaper in the long run. I think it's an investment absolutely necessary now. I imagine the Dept of Energy would handle it. One reason it was created was to deal with nuclear energy and waste by the way.
Gene
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10-25-2008, 03:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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The current lowering of the price of crude is in part the fact that those speculators that bought contracts 2 or 3 months ago now have to either sell them out or take delivery. Towards the end of the run up in crude oil what are known as "week hands" began to buy in. Those week hand are now in the position of either having to take delivery or sell out. Taking delivery on a tanker of crude in an apartment in New York is a bit tough. We will see oil drop a bit more before things get back to some level of normal.
Yes some countries in Europe are close to 80% diesel. But that demand came on line over years not months and just became a convenient part of the excuses we have been given for last summers spike in oil. Take a look at the current wholesale price of heating oil about $2.30. About the same product as diesel. How come we are not shipping that to Europe to support that strong demand?
For those who can remember the so called shortages of 73 at least they supported that fraud by causing lines in key places where the news media could take pictures. There is not a shortage unless someone is going without. Did any of you ever go without?
Oh yes the hurricane. If you watched the news just after the hurricane there was a Fox reporter standing just outside the Beaumont Texas refinery stating the plant was shut down and without power. The fact that every light on the refinery was lit behind him and the safety flare was burning very tall caused me to question his comments. Now there may have been disruption of capacity but I doubt it was there.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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10-25-2008, 07:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,635
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$2.92 this afternoon at Costco in Fountain Valley, CA
Yes, I said CALIFORNIA........
Hey, we're headed out with our Airstream on Wednesday for a couple of weeks to re-distribute some money.
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10-25-2008, 09:16 PM
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moderator
Commercial Member
2016 27' International
Currently Looking...
Wilton
, California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,711
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$3.03 this afternoon at the Costco in Santa Rosa, Ca.
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10-25-2008, 10:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Hi, today at the local Shell Station:
Regular...............................$3.09
Mid-Grade............................$3.19
Premium...............................$3.29
Diesel..................................$3.29
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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10-26-2008, 07:47 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1973 31' Excella 500
Morristown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 193
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Regular $2.69 yesterday
Aviation fuel 100LL $4.72 Morristown, TN
$3.89 Knoxville,TN (downtown)
Muc more expensive to fly but sure like to visit the kids and get there in 4-5 hours instead of 12-13.
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1973 Excella 500
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10-27-2008, 10:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
ozark
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,040
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Are you ready for this?
$1.96 Ozark, Nixa, Mo. area
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10-27-2008, 10:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
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OMG I never thought we would see sub $2.00 gas again. Thats great, Seems Missouri has the cheapest gas around...
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May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..
2008 5.7 L V8 Sequoia
AIR # 31243
WBCCI # 6987
FOUR CORNERS UNIT
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10-27-2008, 03:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic Slideout
2021 33FB Classic
Colleyville
, TX
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,540
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DIESEL @ $2.899 today!!!!
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10-27-2008, 04:45 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
Darien
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 116
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I'll be happy when diesel goes under $3.00, it's 3.18 here.
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1999 Airstream 34' Limited (The Cottage)
2008 F-350 Diesel
WBCCI # 4106
Steve & Jan
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10-27-2008, 04:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Well folks, just heard on our local Canadian station that the average price of gas in the US is $2.66 a gallon which equals 70 cents a litre here BUT we are paying 94.9 cents a litre for gas. Our dollar which had been at par during the summer is now worth only 76 cents US..
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Marvin & Annie
Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
WBCCI 10103
"Happiness is a warm Puppy" Charles Schulz
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10-27-2008, 05:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
SACRAMENTO
, California
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,563
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$2.77 at USA in Sacramento, CA
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