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05-29-2008, 05:05 PM
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#1141
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E Pluribus Aluminus
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Land Of Enchantment
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,300
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Originally Posted by dscluchfc
I would post a complete analysis of the oil problems as discussd with a friend of mine who is a retired petroleum engineer, but it is laced with politics, and someone likely would complain as blame is properly assigned based on experience in the field.
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My brother and I have had probably the same kinds of discussions on this, he's currently a Chem.E with BP and pretty apolitical, tho' he does tend to 'side' with the oil companies (imagine that...).
With the rise in demand from countries such as China & India does indeed drive up the prices, the extent itself of the increase (and timing) is not congruent nor are the profits despite arguments regarding the size of the companies involved. An interesting point he made though was that just as in the issue of global warming, each 'side' will provide whatever numbers/ justification needed to bolster their position and you can bet that the oil companies are not ever going to weaken their position. This is a cash cow of unbelievable proportions.
Valero energy is planning on focusing more on diesel because "that's where the profits are and since transportation is driven by diesel, this is a good market. Everything depends upon it". This was an interview in the San Antonio papers business section earlier this week.
What we have is a collaborative monopoly and the problem is, everything depends on it. I guess one could argue politics here using party cliches as logic, but this is really something that transcends party lines (because both sides have their hands in this bucket). Politics "solved" the "crisis" in the 70's...
It is exactly what it appears to be and we all are pretty helpless do really do anything about it except adjust to it. I do think however, that we can hold our representatives accountable or at least more "aware" through emails, calls and snail mail. So far, prices have risen to this point and as such, those that supply have had a free ride with little or no backlash. "Free markets" are NOT driven by the same laws as physics. They are easily manipulated. IMHO...
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Jaxon
WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
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05-29-2008, 08:15 PM
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#1142
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,919
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$4.799 in West Yellowstone yesterday. They have the gall to stop the pump at $75, less than 1/2 a tank...
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05-29-2008, 10:14 PM
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#1143
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
Field and Stream
, PA & MT
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 819
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HiHoAgRV
$4.799 in West Yellowstone yesterday. They have the gall to stop the pump at $75, less than 1/2 a tank...
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We had that silly restriction up here north of the Park in Livingston some time back, but I guess they lifted the $75 shut off when people like me just ran their cards twice.
I think diesel is a bit cheaper here than some other places, but with the F450 getting somewhere around 7 mpg towing, I just plain don't look at the prices anymore. I got 5.4 mpg last week in South Dakota towing into a crosswind, so I think that magical $1.00 fuel cost per mile is in my near term future.
John
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06-05-2008, 09:47 AM
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#1144
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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Would you believe...
....that gas prices actually DROPPED 6 cents a gallon yesterday? All the way down to $3.809 at BJ's.
Jim
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06-05-2008, 09:55 AM
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#1145
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari-Rick
Lakewood/Long Beach, California
$3.89 Reg Unled
$5.10 Diesel (MamaMia !!!)
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Southern California regular, is now $4.39 per gallon.
Diesel is way over $5.00.
But, back in the "made up" fuel shortage in the early 70's, the club did a survey.
The question was, "How much would you pay for fuel, before you would quit Airstreaming?"
The answer was surprising.
That survey came up with $5.00 per gallon, and that was 35 years ago.
So, the question now becomes the same.
How much will Airstream owners today, be willing to pay for fuel, before they would quit towing?
Andy
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06-05-2008, 10:19 AM
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#1146
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
, Connecticut
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,115
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Well Connecticut made the National News last night as on average having the highest prices for gasoline in the lower 48. No big surprise to us, this morning on the way to the office the lowest for regular was Sunoco $4.26 and the highest was Shell at $4.49. I saw a station yesterday sellin regular for $4.15 and there was a line going down the road!
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Sandi Gould
NEU New England Unit
Airstream Life Magazine
Proud Member of WBCCI
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2009 Silverado 2500HD
2004 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
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06-05-2008, 03:20 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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A trend in the making? Dropped another 2 cents just since this morning. $3.869 on Tuesday, $3.809 yesterday, $3.789 this afternoon. All at BJ's in McDonough.
Jim
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06-05-2008, 06:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 30' Classic S/O
Currently Looking...
Mohrsville
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,313
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim & Susan
A trend in the making? Dropped another 2 cents just since this morning. $3.869 on Tuesday, $3.809 yesterday, $3.789 this afternoon. All at BJ's in McDonough.
Jim
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MAN I HOPE SO...Ours droped an entire $0.04 overnight from $4.89 to $4.85 for diesel
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2006 30' Classic W Slide & Limited Package Katarina
2006 GMC 2500 HD 6.6 Turbo Diesel Crew Cab 8' Bed
TAC PA-3
S/OS#042
AIR #14487
NQ3U (was KB3UOM)
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06-05-2008, 09:08 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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It's after Memorial Day and usually prices drop a bit. Crude is down, more than $10/bbl if I recall correctly and wholesale gas is going down a little too. Gas hasn't kept up with crude's price rise, so it'll stay up for a while, then drop slowly if past year's experience is duplicated.
Gene
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06-05-2008, 09:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
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the last time we had the roller coaster here, the prices dipped but never dropped as did the rest of the country. i have also noted that in most cases, mid grade is .10 a gallon over regular and premium is .20 over regular. so much for the old story about how premium costs more because it takes more oil to produce it!
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2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
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06-05-2008, 10:13 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Diesel tripped and was $4.65 this p.m.
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06-05-2008, 10:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 16' Bambi
1962 22' Safari
Yreka
, California
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,937
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Yesterday Diesel was over $5 a gallon.... today they simply took the sign down. I am sure they are afraid the customers might throw things! The rest of the prices, way to high!
Mrs. NorCal Bambi traveling in S Tardis ~ from the Great State of Jefferson
Yreka History
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06-06-2008, 02:42 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1996 34' Excella
Americus
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 317
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Our fuel here has come down a few pennies but it would be my luck that after writing this it will go back up today. Reg gas $ 3.81 and diesel $ 4.59 .
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1991 Airstream Excella 1000 34ft (SOLD)
1994 Chevrolet Crew Cab dually 2WD 6.5td
2005 Chevrolet Suburban LT 1500 2WD 5.3
WBCCI # 10219 Georgia Unit
AIR # 5131
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06-06-2008, 08:08 AM
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#1154
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,693
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RaceTrac dropped their price a penny yesterday. When that happens, usually, the next day the price will jump six pennies/gallon!
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2006 30' Safari - "Changes in Latitudes"
2008 F-250 Lariat Power Stroke Diesel Crew Cab SWB
Family of Disney Fanatics
WBCCI# 4821
https://streaminacrossamerica.com/
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06-06-2008, 09:04 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2002 22' International CCD
San Luis Obispo
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 418
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Passed a station yesterday here in San Luis Obispo (central Calif. coast) with regular for $4.45. Yikes! I NEVER thought I'd see gas at $4.50... now it's just around the corner.
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2002 22' CCD
2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi
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06-06-2008, 09:53 AM
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#1156
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Hernando
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 759
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Yesterday at Wal-Mart, reg = $3.739. I was afraid to look at the diesel pump.
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Air 16426
Fully retired now!
Remember:
Never start anything before noon and always plan on being finished by 5.
I will never HAVE to be anywhere ever again!
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06-06-2008, 10:39 AM
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#1157
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 2,311
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$3.99-4.01 Regular Gasoline
$4.79 diesel at most I75 stations
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2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4 D/A Ext. Cab
Propane Powered Honda EU2000i
Lots of Hot Sauce!
Air # 283
WBCCI 1350
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06-06-2008, 11:48 AM
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#1158
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wbrownrr
Passed a station yesterday here in San Luis Obispo (central Calif. coast) with regular for $4.45. Yikes! I NEVER thought I'd see gas at $4.50... now it's just around the corner.
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Hey Wayne! It's $4.59 for regular in SLO today at the Shell on the corner of Santa Rosa and Monterey St.
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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06-06-2008, 01:49 PM
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#1159
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4 Rivet Member
2002 22' International CCD
San Luis Obispo
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 418
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CA Streamer... all I can say is "YIKES!"
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2002 22' CCD
2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi
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06-06-2008, 03:54 PM
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#1160
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1953 Flying Cloud
1953 21' Flying Cloud
West Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,034
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At the AM/PM down town Sacramento Regular Unleaded was $4.31 +.45 cent transaction fee.
Price of Oil went up to $134.00 per barrel. Thats up $11 since last week. YIKES
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