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c_lewis77 · 03-29-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dstalzer

It appears that many of the gas/diesel stations are run by people who cannot think. I filled up last week with diesel and the pump cut off at $75. It always makes me mad when I must insert the card for a second time in order to fill up.

I tend to avoid the stations in the future that cut off at a rediculous $ amount. The people that run these stations do not care since they get a pay check regardless.

Dennis

My Excursion has a 45 gallon tank. I have to run my card three times to fill up! I agree, it is very irritating.

Globie64 · 03-29-2012, 12:27 PM

Holy cow, how far can you drive your Excursion on 45 gallons? Is each swipe of the card $100 bucks?
When I worked at a gas station in high school, during the '79 gas crisis, the pumps wouldn't go higher than .50 cents a gallon, so we had to sell gas by the liter, which was like .29 cents a liter for regular, and somehow worked with the pumps. This was with the old mechanical, spinning number pumps; you'd think that the newer gas pumps could be easily set to take more than 100.00 for a sale.

c_lewis77 · 03-29-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Globie64

Holy cow, how far can you drive your Excursion on 45 gallons? Is each swipe of the card $100 bucks?
When I worked at a gas station in high school, during the '79 gas crisis, the pumps wouldn't go higher than .50 cents a gallon, so we had to sell gas by the liter, which was like .29 cents a liter for regular, and somehow worked with the pumps. This was with the old mechanical, spinning number pumps; you'd think that the newer gas pumps could be easily set to take more than 100.00 for a sale.

the pumps i have been going to cut off at $75. I can usually make it about 520 miles or so with out the AS about 435 with. The bigger tank means I have to stop for gas less. with an excursion and a 34' i am pushing 55' overall length! Diesel would make it a little easier because of the truck bays. The car side can get hairy sometimes....i tend to "push" my way in sometimes to get the room that I want. My wife say I drive like an a$$ when I do that, but you do what you have to do!
I had a mercedes 300 SD turbodiesel in grad school that would go about 645 miles on a 20 gal tank (I had 498,000 on the odometer when I sold it!) the excursion V10 does not do that... but i still love the ex!

Gene · 03-29-2012, 03:54 PM

Lowest we saw in Denver was $3.67 2 days ago. Rocky Mountain prices are getting close to the national average. The party is over.

Gene

newroswell · 03-29-2012, 04:14 PM

I like to stop at truck stops for diesel. They usually have good prices, lots of room, designed to get in and out easy, and an air hose in your lane. The fill rate from the larger fill nozzle is a lot faster! Never seen one that took master card, visa, or debt card at the pump though.

Anyone get one of those Fuel Cards they take? I wouldn't think it has a limit on it either. Many times I have pulled in and seen the last sale over $300...

StreamNTyme · 03-29-2012, 04:28 PM

Low end of the scale...If you want to see the high end (starting w Netherlands at $6.48) .check out CNN Money...shall we all move to Venezuela where it is .12 cents a gallon..

Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52
Brazil Brasilia $3.12
Cuba Havana $3.03
Taiwan Taipei $2.84
Lebanon Beirut $2.63
South Africa Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua Managua $2.61
Panama Panama City $2.19
Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12

SeeMore · 03-29-2012, 05:32 PM

We should enjoy our good fortune - diesel was just under $7/gal in Italy last week. You can bet the Keystone pipeline would result in Canadian oil going to Europe to reap the extra profits.

ROBERTSUNRUS · 03-29-2012, 07:10 PM

Hi, I don't like the pumps that shut off at $75.00 or even $100.00; Especially when traveling, I want it full. More irritating is when the pump shuts off at a given amount and won't let you pump again unless you bring your card into the store for the second chance to get a full tank.

silverwoman · 03-29-2012, 07:18 PM

All Keystone Canadian oil is exported & will be exported. The pipeline isn't for the US consumption. The price of gas has nothing to do with supply & demand & everything to do with Wall Street & speculation on the market. We have an excess supply of oil but the price is going up to maybe $5 a gallon by this summer but there's plenty of oil.

wheel interested · 03-29-2012, 07:28 PM

$4.19 a gallon today in Lapeer Michigan.

GettinAway · 03-30-2012, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by silverwoman

All Keystone Canadian oil is exported & will be exported. The pipeline isn't for the US consumption. The price of gas has nothing to do with supply & demand & everything to do with Wall Street & speculation on the market. We have an excess supply of oil but the price is going up to maybe $5 a gallon by this summer but there's plenty of oil.

Just curious how you arrived at this conclusion? I keep hearing how the speculators are all to blame, but it all seems to be just someone's opinion.
There's $.50 a gallon price difference just driving across Missouri.

I would think Keystone would at least help in keeping some $$$ in Canada vs Iran, and there has to be some cost in shipping it to Europe, or bringing it here from the Middle East. You'd think there would be some price break if it didn't need to be shipped across the world, but who knows. So much of the news any more is just someone's spin, or agenda..

newroswell · 03-30-2012, 06:54 AM

HowStuffWorks "How does oil speculation raise gas prices?"

Cap-N-Red · 03-30-2012, 07:59 AM

Port O'Connor TX this morning
Reg. $ 3.69
Mid. $ 3.81
Super $ 3.93
Diesel $ 3.95

Gene · 03-30-2012, 10:34 AM

I think the higher the demand vs. present supplies of oil in the world market, the more opportunity for speculators to capitalize on potential shortages. Both affect the price. It is a tight market and therefore, tying up supplies causes quick jumps in price allowing speculators to cash in, over and over. Buy futures low, price rises, sell, price drops, buy again, price rises, sell… The guys that are good at this make money more than they lose. Every threat of a war against Iran boosts prices. A conflict in the Middle East (Syria for ex.) causes fear and that raises prices. If the Chinese economy slows down, prices drop, but a few days later a positive report from China increases prices.

At present, supply exceeds demand in the Rocky Mountain states and prices have been lower here, but as demand picks up in the spring here, the difference is narrowing. During winter, retail prices here were lower than wholesale prices on the New York exchange that trades gasoline futures (NYMEX), but now they have reversed, though local retail prices are still a bit lower than the rest of the US.

People in rapidly developing Asian countries want what we have—lots of cars. Demand will increase and supplies of oil are not expanding as fast. Opportunity for speculation increases as well. Speculation can be reduced if politics does not continue to block it, but demand cannot be changed unless people switch to alternative fuels for everything to reduce demand. Politics gets in the way of that too. Watch where political donations from oil companies go to see how that works.

There is a measure before a government regulatory agency, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, to reduce speculation, and it should reduce speculation, especially by Wall St. investment banks, if it were adopted. It has been tied up in politics.

Gene

ROBERT CROSS · 03-30-2012, 11:11 AM

I tried to open Used Car Lot with no address, then buy cars that I never had to take possession of so I could sell them at a profit when the market improved.

The Bank said it wasn't viable business model.

Bob

Inland RV Center, In · 03-30-2012, 12:13 PM

Corona, California, $ 4.33 regular, per gallon.

Andy

Gene · 03-30-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS

I tried to open Used Car Lot with no address, then buy cars that I never had to take possession of so I could sell them at a profit when the market improved.

The Bank said it wasn't viable business model.

Bob

Then the bank financed their own bank used car lot with the same idea and made billions.

Gene

newroswell · 03-30-2012, 12:42 PM

Close Gene, the banks are fully invested in oil futures right now and don't have the capital to fund a virtual used car lot.

noreen&sal · 03-30-2012, 01:13 PM

Oil is marketed on the US dollar which has been dropping in value - hence it takes much more of them to do anything. I think Ron Paul said you can still buy a gallon of gas with a thin dime minted in the 1950s. Our federal reserve notes pretty soon wont be worth the paper they're printed on. OMHO. Sal.

phbarnhart · 03-30-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by silverwoman

All Keystone Canadian oil is exported & will be exported. The pipeline isn't for the US consumption. The price of gas has nothing to do with supply & demand & everything to do with Wall Street & speculation on the market. We have an excess supply of oil but the price is going up to maybe $5 a gallon by this summer but there's plenty of oil.

So what you're saying is that we need to buy gas and, since the market is unregulated, they can charge whatever the market will bear? Go figure.