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Old 05-06-2019, 10:34 AM   #1
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Turn Outs...

Howdy,

Took my first drive up and down a windy mountain road. Twists and turns. 35-55mph.

I was able to do speed limit or above to spread out the chain behind me for the most part.

The turn outs seemed much too short and I would have most likely have to come to a complete stop making merging back in hazardous.

If doing speed limit or safely above, maybe 5 mph more to spread out the chain following do you use turn outs?

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Old 05-08-2019, 08:37 AM   #2
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Howdy,



Took my first drive up and down a windy mountain road. Twists and turns. 35-55mph.



I was able to do speed limit or above to spread out the chain behind me for the most part.



The turn outs seemed much too short and I would have most likely have to come to a complete stop making merging back in hazardous.



If doing speed limit or safely above, maybe 5 mph more to spread out the chain following do you use turn outs?



Thanks,



Rounder44


Turn outs generally are too short for getting up to safe merging speed. Most steep mountain highways have slower vehicle passing lanes at reasonable intervals. I keep to the speed limits, and am content to let the speedsters slow down behind me for a few minutes.
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:52 AM   #3
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Very site-specific situations, and very difficult to generalize IMO.

Find the right balance point and maximize safety. If folks behind have to be more patient, so be it!

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Old 05-08-2019, 09:15 AM   #4
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When I feel like I can safely. I have to see the turn out far enough ahead to evaluate its length and whether someone is in it. I have to consider is traffic overall light enough so I will get a long empty spot to pull back out in. Most turnouts do require a complete stop and re-entry. I sorta evaluate whether I am keeping up with traffic or if I am the impediment. So I use the turnouts as often as I feel I can. I also try to avoid feeling I have to push at a higher speed than I feel is safe and using the turn outs regularly helps with that.
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:52 PM   #5
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Texas permits one to drive on the shoulder IF it is wide enough AND it is clear so that someone overtaking doesn't have to wait for a clear spot. We've taken advantage of that a few times, but sometimes there isn't enough of a straight stretch for me to see far enough to let the speedier guy pass me. More than once I've been glad I didn't use the shoulder as there was some large object on the shoulder.
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Old 05-08-2019, 09:37 PM   #6
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That brings back memories.

We lived in Nebraska and went to my Aunt's in Boerne for Christmas.

I was 16 and had been a licensed driver for about 6 weeks.

Mom in the passenger side napping, and I am at the wheel. I observe that this is the way the locals do it. I of course had been told by my parents not to speed, so I realize that most everyone else needs to pass me.

Mom wakes up from her catnap freaking out "why are we on the shoulder???"
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:19 AM   #7
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If itís easy to pull over I will, but I donít want to stop completely unless Iíll have plenty of time to get back on the roadway. (I pull over to let people pass ALL the time ó even into driveways ó when Iím just in a car.) Otherwise, people behind me are just going to have to be patient until they can get around me. (Iím usually doing close to the speed limit anyway.)
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:14 PM   #8
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I’ve ridden with people who were so preoccupied with people behind them they almost wrecked. I pull over when I can but the people who were behind just end up on the bumper of the next car in front. If it’s not safe to pull over they just have to wait.
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Old 05-09-2019, 01:10 PM   #9
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I had a friend come visit me in Colorado. I wanted her to see the "Million Dollar Highway" (550 south of Ouray). She insisted on driving since it was her rental car.
Now, that stretch of road still takes my breath away, but she drove 20 mph. I begged her to pull over on a turnout, which she did. There must have been 20 cars behind us. "Why were they all blowing their horns?"...Um..., ah,....
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Iíll always get in the slower lane to let faster traffic pass. If there is only one lane and iím Going the speed limit- oh well, I guess they should have gotten up earlier.

Remember - road shoulders are where all the road debris ends up: nails, rocks, glass, metal, etc. No way am I going to jeopardize my AS or TV.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:21 PM   #11
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This brings to mind the first— and only— time I drove on Scenic Byway 7 in Arkansas. Twists and turns and ups and downs and various combinations thereof, on a two-lane road with no shoulders at all and no turn-outs for miles and miles. I made sure to slow down to the posted advisory speed shown on the yellow signs at each turn to avoid going off the side of the road or into the oncoming lane, and I ended up leading a parade of irate Arkansans, to the point that they were passing me in "No Passing" zones just to get around me. And I learned that a "scenic byway" isn't very scenic at all when you don't dare look away from the road long enough to see the scenery.

But then again, I've driven a lot in Arkansas in the last year, and even when I can do the full posted speed limit on better roads, they tend to pass me in "No Passing" zones anyway.

But I've become philosophical about the whole experience. Even though posted advisory speeds on turns are not speed limits, they were determined by highway engineers based on the speed the curve was designed for in the first place, and it is good, safe, defensive driving practice to follow the posted advisory speeds. If people behind me want to go faster and risk an accident, it's not my problem, and I'm under no obligation to risk an accident as well just so they can.
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Well said!

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Old 05-18-2019, 11:09 AM   #13
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Iíll always get in the slower lane to let faster traffic pass. If there is only one lane and iím Going the speed limit- oh well, I guess they should have gotten up earlier.

Remember - road shoulders are where all the road debris ends up: nails, rocks, glass, metal, etc. No way am I going to jeopardize my AS or TV.
my sentiments exactly
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Turn Outs...

When on a winding road with pullouts As long as I am able to maintain the posted speed limit or within a couple of mph I do not use the pull outs even if there are several vehicles behind me. I feel that the vehicles that want to go over the speed limit are not entitled to the right of way.
To paraphrase a highway patrolman friend of mine ďA Speeding Vehicle Has No Right Of WayĒ
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Old 06-15-2019, 11:13 PM   #15
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Only use turn outs when it safe for YOU to do so
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Old 06-16-2019, 09:27 AM   #16
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Yes pull out only when safe for US, however we do also use them when a line builds up behind us. Even if a speeding vehicle has no right of way we still don't like the line pushing us from behind even if it's only metaforically.
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As all AS owners I agree as the line grows I start looking for a turnout that is safe for all. We do not like to put others in a situation that they would put themselves and us into dangerous situation. Even if the other drives think of only themselves and how they are being held back from their plan by driving behind a Airstream. Airstreams owners are safe considerate drivers that enjoy the ride. Be safe number one
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