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Old 04-20-2012, 11:25 AM   #21
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no place that you can turn around to go back.
Is there no place to turn around at the sign, or after you ignore the sign? We've seen places were they "advise" not to travel, but no place to turn around when you see the sign.

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Old 04-20-2012, 11:30 AM   #22
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I actually made it in a cabover Peterbilt pulling a 48' trailer but let me tell you that I could smell vinyl on my breath from sucking the seat up.

That's a road that no vehicle pulling a trailer more than 10' long should ever be on.

Take a look at it on Google maps and zoom in on the mid-climb portion (and that only hints at the vertical climb).

There's no place to turn around once you see the first sign. That was some years ago and maybe it's changed since then but I wouldn't go there unless I knew for certain that I could go back, and the switchbacks will always be there
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:03 PM   #23
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Looks good from here.

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Old 04-20-2012, 12:06 PM   #24
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TG Twinkie--Did you mean "gold" instead of "good"?

I agree with all of the above on mountain passes. I have only been Airstreaming for the last 3 years but made most of those mountain passes in my faithful VW camper and three wide-eyed teenagers. Beartooth Pass out of Yellowstone is the "mother of all" passes. But my biggest challenge in 'Stream has been the California State Hwy 1 along the coast from LA to Oregon.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:32 PM   #25
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Yes. Gold in the roadbed. Probably worth more than a million today.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:41 PM   #26
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For the record, that was Granite Pass at over 9,000' east of Greybull in Wyoming, and we were eastbound so it was mostly climbing "leaning forward", <No idea why we do that..> and watching terrified looks of others coming at us. Clue should have been cheery signs alongside highway notifying us of "Shell Creek" exit, followed by "Shell Rapids" and finally "Shell Falls".. We did not try "OMG" pass on 14A.. We did arrive in beautiful high meadow where we were sure we could find Heidi with a little looking.. Long wide-open switchbacks for miles as we descended into South Dakota and Mt. Rushmore...
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There must be no restriction on trucks. (maybe trailer length) as this shows 2 truck/pup combinations near the top.
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It looks like a very scenic drive.

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Old 04-20-2012, 01:51 PM   #28
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Following your suggestion Dave, I just took the virtual trip up the mountain via Google street view and I see that the road has been widened and improved since my trip up it. I would never have made it if those guard rails had been there when I went up it.

I still wouldn't take an AS up it from that direction however because of the switchbacks and the other way in from Dan Bernardino is so easy.
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Independence Pass east of Aspen, Colo., is another interesting one. It is now restricted to vehicles of no more than 35'. The west side has some very narrow parts, blind curves and low walls that will only slow your descent off the side slightly. A 35' vehicle would have a tough time, but I suppose it can be done. On the east side, no walls or guardrails.

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Lukachukai Pass / Buffalo Pass

I'll throw in a couple of images from Lukachukai Pass (as it's called on some maps) or Buffalo Pass (as it's called on, e.g., Google Earth). The attachment is a slanting view from Google Earth; you can see Shiprock in the upper right corner. The other is a photo I took of Shiprock from the top of the pass.



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Independence Pass east of Aspen, Colo., is another interesting one. It is now restricted to vehicles of no more than 35'. The west side has some very narrow parts, blind curves and low walls that will only slow your descent off the side slightly. A 35' vehicle would have a tough time, but I suppose it can be done. On the east side, no walls or guardrails.

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When the kids were 11, 9 and 1, we left the pop up at the KOA at Buena Vista and drove over Independence to visit Aspen... we were in Jeep Cherokee... would have not wanted to have been driving anything bigger down the west side..... those low walls seemed more like a very low curb...

and there were bicycle riders coming back down from the top of the pass on their road cycles back to Aspen...

talk about white knuckles


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eubank - Gorgeous picture of Shiprock! I need to get out in that area - I have relatives who ran the Trading Post at Ft. Wingate near Ramah. I was real little when I was last there, ie over 60 years ago. Winetripper
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