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02-03-2003, 12:26 PM
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Obsessed with Moonunit
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.7 Metre
Love It Here
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Taking a shower
Ok - I tried the "search button" to see if anyone had posted this question and not much info. So...I am wondering about the time frame for taking a shower with a 6 gallon WH. With 2 teenage boys on our upcoming trip, I think I will need to set a time limit or I won't have hot water for dishes, etc. after they use it up in washing. With the drought here in Colo. I have been working to get everyone in the house to only use shower for 15 min. Is that too long in a trailer? Also, about how long to get hot water back if it gets used up? Leigh
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02-03-2003, 12:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Sorry, no 15 minute showers while camping...unless it's in a park washroom
The best advice is to do "Army Showers". Get wet, turn off the water, lather, turn the water back on to rinse off.
Think of (6) 1-gallon jugs of milk...for an idea of how big your W/H is. It doesn't last too long, but the recovery is pretty quick, I've never timed it but it's never been much of a problem for us.
Shari
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02-03-2003, 12:35 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,718
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Taking a shower
Greetings Leigh!
You'll soon discover that the need for conserving water is directly related to your utility connections. When you have "city" water with waste water disposal connections, the water heater will likely keep pace with 5 to 7 minute pacing of showers. The problem arises when you are running on your water storage tank and sending to the gray water tank with the limited storage capacitities available. There is a switch on the showerhead that allows the flow of water to be shut-off whenever it isn't needed - - this little switch gets a work out when it is necessary to save water either due to lack of fresh water in the tank or when the gray water tank must be called upon.
Kevin
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1964 Overlander International
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02-03-2003, 12:36 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
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Water Temp Makes a Difference!
Our 31 footer has a 10 gallon water tank. If the hot water temp is set high, then you will use less hot water mixed in the the cold to give you the desired shower temperature. We take 5-10 minute showers without running out of water. I light the water heater as soon as camp is set up and turn it off just before we leave camp. The water heater does not seem to use much propane at all.
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02-03-2003, 12:36 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1995 30' Limited
Warsaw
, Missouri
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Leigh,I am finding it easier and less of a mess to just shower at the camp ground facilities.
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02-03-2003, 12:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
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Quote:
If the hot water temp is set high, then you will use less hot water mixed in the the cold to give you the desired shower temperature.
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Good point Pick...I was going to mention that too.
Shari
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02-03-2003, 12:39 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Leigh,
You have multiple factors here. First how cold is the water coming into the hot water tank? Secondly is the water heater a gas only unit or is it the electric/gas combo? Third will they use the shower head shutoff to wet down, soap up, and rinse, rather than standing under a steady stream of water.
All these factors will affect the length of time that the hot water is available. I'm not sure if you can tell the guys a specific time limit since the factors above will affect that time. Unless you are in a clime where the water supply is fairly warm (Florida comes to mind), you should leave at least 10-15 minutes elapse between showers for a gas water heater to recover.
If they dally in the shower too long, they will soon learn how much time is too much!
Jack
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02-03-2003, 01:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 26' Overlander
Woodstock
, Georgia
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I wanted to mention that if you are not on a sewer line hookup, your showers will fill that grey water tank pretty quickly.
I like the army shower idea, but also we have used the campground showers almost everywhere we have been- and used our airstream shower only when really necessary.
I will say too that here in Georgia where our drought is finally over, we never took more than 10min. showers in the house- 15 minutes is a lot of water use. (Yes I do have at teenager who loves that warm water...also.)
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02-03-2003, 02:07 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
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I second that recommendation about using the campground showers. Using your trailer's shower will fill up your grey tank pretty quickly, and will fill up a 30 gal blue tank quickly too.
I've used the camp showers with good success and saved the hot water heater for dishes and washing up.
Tripp
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02-03-2003, 02:35 PM
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Obsessed with Moonunit
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.7 Metre
Love It Here
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 957
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shower vs. teens
Thanks everybody!!! We will be camping in a full hookup campground with sewer hookup on site, soo, I think I am hearing that each person could take a 5-10min shower with fairly warm/hot water IF they do so military style (on/off/on/off) without using too much propane and not filling grey tank!!
The younger of the two kids will probibly think he is clean enough if he gets in the pool. The older one pictures the ocean in his head when showering (endless source!!), so I will steer him toward the camp showers (hopefully his 15 yr old modesty won't pop up) and the trailer shower will only be used if absolutely necessary.
Don't you guys think that they should come up with a camping Trivial Pursuit game??? Leigh
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02-03-2003, 04:04 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2002
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The recovery time on a six gallon tank (using gas) is so fast, that by the time one gets out, dried off, dressed, and out of the bathroom, it will have nearly full capacity. Certainly within five minutes or so.
As was pointed out, if you are dependant upon your holding tanks that is much more limiting. Wife and I find that we can do a weekend, each taking one shower (taking no particular water saving measures), and just make it without overflowing the grey water tank. I wish there was some convenient way to pump about 10 gal. into the black tank.
Not trying to be prigish, but one of the reasons we got the Airstream was NOT to have to use the camp showers. But then, we aren't camping with kids.
Mark
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02-03-2003, 05:32 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,644
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hose em down
use the hose on the kids and save the shower for you and the wife!
just a thought!
john
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