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10-14-2014, 11:38 AM
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1999 34' Excella
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10-14-2014, 11:51 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
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Originally Posted by cwf
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I'm not sure it's gobbledegook. In fact, it's pretty much in line with Department of Transportation guidelines for carrying individual fuel cans without secondary containment.
It's the same principle that only lets you carry up to 11 one-pound propane canisters in your truck for use with your Coleman grill, even though you can have a built-in tank or a larger DOT cylinder that holds a lot more than 11 pounds of propane.
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10-14-2014, 07:34 PM
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1976 27' Overlander
Tampa
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Havent seen anyone one speak up to say that fuel storage in the trailer is a no-no because of vapors and pilot lights on the appliances is a recipe for disaster.
Thought I read this somewhere and always been under the impression that its a bad idea.
Is this not the case? This is new to me as I have never actually used my 2 year old, shell off, restoration project that I was just going to "clean up and go camping".
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10-14-2014, 08:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB International
2012 23' Flying Cloud
GVA
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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Roto Pax
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10-15-2014, 02:03 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mixter
Havent seen anyone one speak up to say that fuel storage in the trailer is a no-no because of vapors and pilot lights on the appliances is a recipe for disaster.
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Gasoline vapors have a "lower explosive limit" just like propane; and being a hydrocarbon vapor are detectable by an LPG detector.
Gasoline's lower explosive limit is 1.2% by volume (propane's is 2.1% by volume).
A five-gallon gas can would have to off-gas a lot of vapor to add up to 1.2% of your trailer's air volume. It would have to off-gas a lot less to add up to 1.2% of your tow vehicle's air volume. So if you have to carry it inside, it's safer in the trailer than in the tow vehicle. If you keep the vents open to allow air exchange, it will also take a lot longer for vapors to build up to 1.2% of the trailer's air volume.
Also, your pilot lights are all on the outside of the vehicle for your furnace, water heater, and refrigerator; air for combustion is drawn from outside, not from inside. The only spark source inside the trailer is the stove, which you shouldn't be using while you're driving anyway.
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10-15-2014, 04:24 AM
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Vintage Kin Owner
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I used to have a 1967 Ford F350 and you could see the gas tank when you pulled the back of the seat forward. I always could smell a faint gasoline odor and I always smoked cigarettes in that cab.
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10-15-2014, 04:56 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
I used to have a 1967 Ford F350 and you could see the gas tank when you pulled the back of the seat forward. I always could smell a faint gasoline odor and I always smoked cigarettes in that cab.
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I used to have a 1959 Ford pickup with the fuel tank behind the seat like that.
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10-15-2014, 07:42 AM
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2015 25' International
Scottsdale
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Great idea. Does the can sit on the frame? Does the mounting bracket support the weight or just stabilize the can and the weight is on the frame.
Thanks
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10-15-2014, 08:55 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Escondido
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I have two Honda 2000I propane powered for sale, PM me if interested
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10-15-2014, 10:57 AM
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2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
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Rotopax can(s)in their mount - outside. Pm me, too, if you want an EU2000i companion...and are close to MT.
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10-15-2014, 11:37 AM
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2008 27' Safari FB SE
Pfafftown
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For people towing with a Suburban, Expedition or Excursion carrying fuel in Rotopax containers mounted to the outside of the vehicle (or mounted to the outside of the trailer) seems like a good solution. I've been using Rotopax to store fuel in the bed of my pickup for 2 years without a leak. They are expensive but are extremely tough and well made.
Some of the Rubbermaid Action Packer cargo boxes are large enough to contain the generator for safe transport on top of the tow vehicle (or inside the tow vehicle with the generator gasoline tank empty). Here is a link to the Rubbermaid website showing the complete line of action packers:
Rubbermaid Action Packer
Personally I won't carry the generator or gasoline inside the cab of the tow vehicle or inside the trailer. I do know people who do. My generator and fuel containers travel in the bed of my pickup.
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10-21-2014, 02:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
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carry your gas in European jerry cans! they don't leak even when turned on there sides or back or tops! absolutely leak proof. stay away from American style gas cans! they leak unless stored upright. I haveused European (german jerry cans) for years and never has any issues with them. havehauled 12 0f them to Alaska and all over the u.s. with no problems.
for better results try to go to a small local airstrip and get 100 ll (low lead ) aviation gas. never spoiles or gums up and no ethanol (corn juice ) to eat up your gaskets etc.
just don't use it in your vehicle that has catalatic converters! unless you want to replace the converters!!!!!!
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11-02-2014, 10:12 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1973 Argosy 24
Hartselle
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How about a front mount hitch and a cargo carrier mounted in it? etrailer.com carries a full line of front mount hitches. You can also buy a generator security box that mounts into a hitch. I use a cargo rack and a security box with the help of a double hitch receiver.
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11-02-2014, 11:06 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
1992 21' Sovereign
2000 30' Excella
2001 31' Land Yacht
Valley Park
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I've carried a Honda EU2000 in double plastic bags inside a large Coleman cooler in the back of my Club Wagon for over 15 years. Have never smelled gas. My Honda is an early model with the closing vent on the gas cap. I understand the new ones no longer have them but believe I've read here about purchasing the older style.
I carry two 1 gallon plastic gas cans of fuel in the factory box on the A frame of the trailer behind the propane tanks. Never a problem with it, except the time the van ran out of gas in nowhere Nebraska. Those 2 gallons got us to a gas station. Worst outcome is my family will never let me forget it!
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11-03-2014, 07:55 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Montgomery
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This may just me, but after my roll over accident in August, I can't imagine having a generator or full gas can in any position in the SUV or Airstream.
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11-03-2014, 08:19 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Cassity
This may just me, but after my roll over accident in August, I can't imagine having a generator or full gas can in any position in the SUV or Airstream.
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Can't argue with that. In a rollover, all bets are off, and everything in your tow vehicle or trailer will try to kill you. But a proper DOT-approved fuel can, inside proper secondary containment, is not a whole lot more hazardous than your tow vehicle's own fuel system in such a case.
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11-03-2014, 08:26 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Montgomery
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Pro, couldn't agree more. The generator and gas container should be as secure as possible during travel.
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11-03-2014, 09:33 AM
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2009 23' FB Flying Cloud
Canmore
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I just ordered a small Justrite gas can after reviewing the last few posts...
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