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03-16-2004, 01:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
San Jose
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GCVWR for Titan?
Does anybody know the Gross Combined VWR for the Titan? The Nissan website does not list it. And what about the axle ratings? Thanks.
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03-16-2004, 03:17 PM
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5 rivets, 1 loose screw
1966 20' Globetrotter
Saginaw County
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03-16-2004, 03:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
San Jose
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Rog,
Am I blind? I don't see GCVWR listed anywhere. I figure it's around 14,000# but maybe less since they are not publishing it.
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03-16-2004, 04:25 PM
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5 rivets, 1 loose screw
1966 20' Globetrotter
Saginaw County
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Sorry about that Big Dee. Now that I look at that page closer, I see the GVWR and max trailer weight but not the GCVWR.
Maybe someone else will know.
Rog
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03-16-2004, 04:25 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Charleston
, West Virginia
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Here's a site that should help - Titan Talk.
It runs on the same forums software that this place does.
I looked long and hard at the Titan and came REALLY close to buying one. The Nissan dealer should have a towing guide available. It's a small book/brochure that gives all the important specs.
Here's a link to the Open Roads Forums - Nissan Titan, Pros and Cons thread. I guess I'll get kicked off eventually for linking to OTHER forums.
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03-16-2004, 04:28 PM
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Rivet Master
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GCVWR?
If you add the trailer weight and the curb weight, would that equal the GCVWR? Or do you need to subtract the tongue weight. Seems to me it is something that they should list in the open.
Here's the link Fred was referring to: Titantalk forum GVWR
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03-16-2004, 08:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
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The F.M.V.S.S. Certification Label on my decked out LE says:
GVWR 6499#
GAWR-F 3500#
GAWR-R 3800#
(axle ratings w P265/70R18 tires at 35psi)
Don, GCWR is the max weight of both vehicles together. Passengers, luggage, hitch, trailer tongue load, fuels, other liquids, and all optional equipment must be added to the base tow vehicle and the base trailer weights. It is simpler to say, "The maximum configuration for all weight between the front bumper of the loaded tow vehicle and the rear bumper of the loaded trailer."
From my manual:
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03-16-2004, 08:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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The scan looked pretty good before my photog program did the resize down to the 640 pixel forum maximum. Anyway, see what you can see...
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03-17-2004, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally posted by Canoe stream
The F.M.V.S.S. Certification Label on my decked out LE says:
GVWR 6499#
GAWR-F 3500#
GAWR-R 3800#
(axle ratings w P265/70R18 tires at 35psi)
Don, GCWR is the max weight of both vehicles together. Passengers, luggage, hitch, trailer tongue load, fuels, other liquids, and all optional equipment must be added to the base tow vehicle and the base trailer weights. It is simpler to say, "The maximum configuration for all weight between the front bumper of the loaded tow vehicle and the rear bumper of the loaded trailer."
From my manual:
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Bob,
Yeah, I understand. But the listed curb weight and the advertized maximum trailer weight also add up very close to the GCWR. Which points out a problem that has been talked about (a lot!) before: The maximum trailer weight advertized is often way more than the vehicle can handle when you add in driver, dogs, fuel, snacks, and other stuff.
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03-17-2004, 11:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
San Jose
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Thanks Bob!
I wonder why they don't make the GCVWR more available? I see the GCVWR for the 4x4 LE is 14,800. Since the GVWR is 6499, that leaves 8301#. My buddy wants to tow a fiver with a GVWR of 7900#. Well the Titan won't work, as I suspected.
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03-17-2004, 12:18 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Charleston
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The sum of my research indicated this:
The Titan is a very nice 1/2 ton truck. It compares very favorably against it's 1/2 ton competitors.
It is NOT a substitute for a 3/4 ton truck. You can directly compare the Ford F-150 and Chevy 1500. It's the old 'apples and oranges' thing to compare the Titan to a Chevy Silverado 2500 or Ford F-250 (3/4 ton trucks).
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03-17-2004, 04:33 PM
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Rivet Master
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Re: Thanks Bob!
Quote:
Originally posted by Big Dee
I wonder why they don't make the GCVWR more available? I see the GCVWR for the 4x4 LE is 14,800. Since the GVWR is 6499, that leaves 8301#. My buddy wants to tow a fiver with a GVWR of 7900#. Well the Titan won't work, as I suspected.
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Big Dee,
Keep in mind that the 8301# does not include the tongue weight of the trailer, so it's not as bad as it sounds. If you add the tongue weight, you get close to the advertized trailer capacity of 9200#. But the tongue weight has to come out of the carrying capacity of the tow vehicle.
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03-17-2004, 09:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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A half-ton truck is still a half-ton truck...
I fully agree! The usable capacity of this truck isn't much different than an F-150 or Dodge & Chev 1500s. The lower gears in my five-speed tranny give great pulling power. They can claim a high 9000+ pulling capacity but it is not practical if you do the numbers. I had to chuckle last November when Ford claimed to have pulled a fast one on Nissan by low-balling the new F-150's tow capacity until after Nissan played their hand. Then Ford announced an F-150 tow capacity 200 pounds higher. Who can't guess that Dodge & GM are massaging their numbers even as we speak?
Half-tonners and the new 25-footers just cannot work together. My Argosy is going to get the A-frame painted and a new Reese WD w Dual Cam installed this spring, then I will get it to a CAT scale and report back the true load placed on the truck.
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