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03-29-2006, 08:09 AM
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We can tow it!
1996 28' Excella
Where the water tastes like wine
, Michigan
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,625
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Great forum support!
So sorry you had that experience Mike. We all get our first trip/or later oops! I learn daily from the collective wisdom and checklists on this forum! We were lucky to benefit from the wisdom of others on our first trip out, and gave copies of some forum arrival/departure checklists to the folks who bought our 79. I'm sure that it helped.
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Originally Posted by Canoe stream
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03-29-2006, 09:10 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Decherd
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 47
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Originally Posted by myoung
So what you are suggesting is that when the switch is turned to the "store" position, the off position, the brakes will not function when the emergency disconnect plug is pulled from the trailer a-frame when the trailer brakes loose. Now, that is a major, MAJOR problem!!
If you are correct, then there ought to be a huge warning sign somewhere indicating that fact. Have I missed something? Can we get confirmation, because this is a serious safety issue.
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I spoke with the AS dealer and they verified this:
In the event of an accidental separation of the TV and the trailer, the break-away switch will set and lock the trailer brakes for a sufficient length of time to stop the trailer. The switch is activated when the wire attached to it and to the TV pulls out the small pin in the front of the unit.
This switch will function no matter what position your battery disconnect is in.
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03-29-2006, 09:18 AM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,190
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Maybe the new ones are different - but I don't see how they can be. My owners manual (97 Safari) warns against towing with the battery disconnect set to Off. The reason given is that the battery will be the only source of power in the event the break-away switch is pulled.
Perhaps check with your airstream dealer again - ask him what will be the power source to power the brake magnets if the battery is disconnected? Does he think the battery disconnect is bypassed with a direct link or something? Or something else?
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03-29-2006, 09:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 30' Classic
Farmington
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 826
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Originally Posted by myoung
I knew the grey water tank was full because the shower wouldn't drain. I'm pretty sure the monitor indications are accurate. However, the monitor may not be as linear as the markings indicate. It seems as if the amount of water needed to go from half to full in the fresh water tank and in the grey water tank was less than necessary to go from zero to half. Not a scientific study, just an impression.
Our AS has pretty good capacities, among the best in the Safari line. Supposedly, they are 39 gallons each for black and fresh and 37 gallons for grey. If I could change the proportions, I'd reduce the black and add the reduced amount to both grey and fresh, probably with more allocation to the grey. Don't even want to contemplate filling the black before using up all the grey.
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In an emergency or to get by for a short time you can drain off some gray into a bucket and dump into the toilet. Sometimes to save gray space wife will do dishes in a pan and pour into the toilet. You can easily stretch you gray another day sometimes two. Pieman
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03-29-2006, 10:21 AM
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Rivet Master
Nipomo
, California
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 629
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Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
In an emergency or to get by for a short time you can drain off some gray into a bucket and dump into the toilet. Sometimes to save gray space wife will do dishes in a pan and pour into the toilet. You can easily stretch you gray another day sometimes two. Pieman
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Thanks, Mike. I really like these ideas. The black water tank has much more capacity than needed so your suggestions will help us even out the distribution in the tanks.
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Bowlus Road Chief "Endymion"
BMW X3 xDrive 28D
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03-29-2006, 10:53 AM
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Just an old timer...
2022 27' Globetrotter
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,780
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Originally Posted by pmclemore
Maybe the new ones are different - but I don't see how they can be. My owners manual (97 Safari) warns against towing with the battery disconnect set to Off. The reason given is that the battery will be the only source of power in the event the break-away switch is pulled.
Perhaps check with your airstream dealer again - ask him what will be the power source to power the brake magnets if the battery is disconnected? Does he think the battery disconnect is bypassed with a direct link or something? Or something else?
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I think that "battery disconnect" is almost misleading. It's actually a battery isolator that completely isolates the battery from the coach. Unless they've done something different in the wide body coaches that would keep the breakaway switch 'hot' while everything else is dead?
Roger
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havin' to fix my broken Airstreams since 1987...
AIR 2053 Current: 2022 Globetrotter 27FBQ
Airstreams Emeritus: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' two-door, 1994 B190, 2004 Interstate T1N, 2020 GT 23 FBQ
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03-29-2006, 03:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 34' Excella
1962 16' Bambi
New Haven
, Connecticut
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 600
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here's a link to the old wally byam checklist...
http://dwmorrison.com/airstreamchecklist.pdf
it appears in one of the more recent airstream books - i forget which one.
don't feel too bad, last year i tore off all four stabilizers. i was in a real rush packing up as i was trying to get to a ny giants football game. needless to say, we missed the kickoff.
i now keep a supply of the checklists in my glove box.
--dave
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03-29-2006, 05:00 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,684
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
I think that "battery disconnect" is almost misleading. It's actually a battery isolator that completely isolates the battery from the coach. Unless they've done something different in the wide body coaches that would keep the breakaway switch 'hot' while everything else is dead?
Roger
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Thanks for clearing that up!
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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03-29-2006, 06:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 28' Funeral Coach
Belleview
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,635
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From time to time in my forgetfulness I approach the MoHo from the drivers side.... no door there dummy.... then proceed to walk around the rear to get to the side door. It looks like a walk around but is actually just a "fake out" for anyone who might be wondering what the heck I'm doing on the wrong side of the bus.
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1984 28' Funeral Coach
Former Rolling Showroom & PuttLab (now party bus)
"I'm not an expert. But I did sleep in an Airstream last night."
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03-29-2006, 08:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2003 25' Safari
Kissimmee
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 815
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When in more wild camping areas (where we usually go) we attach a green garden hose to a special cap for our dump valve and let the grey water trickle out into the weeds away from the campsite. It's just soapy water, soaks into the ground, and no different than the tenter next door pouring his dishwater into the grass. This does not apply to crowded "civilized" RV parks, but they usually have full hookups anyway.
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