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Old 07-25-2015, 07:08 PM   #1241
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This is great. I'll have to put the Ford factory and Museum on my list of places to see. Hey, what's with the barrel vaulted ceiling?


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Hi, I guess that was Edsel ford's idea; We were told that Eleanor Ford made the decision on most of the rest of the house.
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Tell Carol to closes her eyes for this post.

Hi, this morning we packed up and left camp Dearborn; That place was packed last night. Only one empty space in the whole place. It was party city. Today new crossed the famous Mackinac Bridge. We will be staying at the TIKI RV park& campground for four nights. On the way over to our campground, Lee spotted something, so we went back. It's a place called Castle Rock and for $1.00 you can climb to the top and see almost everything. They say it's only about 200 feet high. well Bob did it again and have a few pictures to prove it.
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:34 PM   #1243
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Cat fight..........Not really, but...

Hi, today [7-25-2015] I was given an address to enter into Caroline, but she directed us to go South when Lee said we should be going North. After going about 25 miles in the wrong direction, It was Lee against Caroline and Bob hiding in the innocent back round. I decided to check Caroline's avoidances. I remember only instructing Caroline to avoid "U" turns. When I looked into the settings, I found almost everything was checked off. And to avoid tolls, road construction, heavy traffic, and whatever other choices there were, Caroline was going to have us go back to California to get to Northern Michigan from Southern Michigan, and Lee wasn't going to have it. After un-checking all of the avoidances except for "U" turns, we were once again happily on our way. This little incident cost us about one hour, and fifty miles, in the wrong direction.

I have been trying to take a picture of a road sign, but we keep missing it. It says, basically, If you hurt or kill a worker, it's $7,500 + 15 years. Also there are three speed limits here. 70 MPH for cars, 60 MPH for trucks, and a minimum speed of 55 MPH. Depending on the speed limits and the flow of traffic, we are mostly going 65 MPH and sometimes 70 MPH. Power, handling, and comfort of my new truck is great; Gas mileage is about the same as my Lincoln. I'm still curious about running Premium in it to see if it makes any difference. Some say it gives more power and better mileage. If and when I try it, I want to do it where the gas is still near or under $3.00 per gallon.
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:45 PM   #1244
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Bob,

I've always heard using fuel of a higher octane than the vehicle specs is a waste of money. If the fuel is more volatile at higher octane (I'm assuming that is the case), you may get preignition. In high altitude regular is 2 octane lower than at lower elevation, but I've always used regular (most Toyotas take regular) regardless and have noticed no difference between 85 and 87.

I always guess wrong when I think I've figured out where you are going next, so I'll chance it again—across the UP, into Wisc., then to Duluth (railroad museum, some restaurants near the lift brings and the lift bridge itself, good public CG on Duluth's southside), up and around Lake Superior—and I'll quit being wrong now.

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Hi, Gene; In my experience, using the wrong octane on a newer car, hurts rather than helps. In ancient times, Higher octane with a bit more spark advance made a big difference. As per the Ecoboost, Ford recommends using 87 octane for normal driving and premium when heavily loaded or towing. Also the new Navigator Ecoboost is supposed to run premium, but can run regular, but at a loss of power. Also some Mustangs can run regular, but need premium for the performance mode.

The rules keep changing.
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7-26-2015 / 7-27-2015.

Hi, yesterday Lee took the Arnold Ferry to Mackinac Island while I stayed home with Dusty. Dusty wasn't feeling good because we gave him some food that wasn't good for him. Actually it wasn't good for us either. Today, I went to Mackinac Island on the Arnold Ferry and Lee stayed home with Dusty. He's doing much better now. It's sort-of like Catalina Island but much larger and much busier. Lee took a few horse drawn wagons and I like a crazy person walked mostly around the Island. It was about 7.5 miles and I only saw one other person [woman younger than me] walking around the island.

Note: The red line on the map is where I walked today; Boy, was I tired. [too old for this]
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Hi, In Ford Country, you can hear a Dodge rust! Actually everything in Michigan rusts in time. I never saw a California car, or truck, like this.
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Hi, WIFI here only works at the office or the Canteen. I came out here last night to post, but my battery was almost dead and the only outlets were being used by the kid employees. And they had a fourteen things plugged into one dual outlet. Today I drove back to Dearborn to tour Greenfield town; It was much larger than I thought. Basically it is old original houses and machine shops Etc. that were owned and lived in by middle class people who made a mark in history. There was a steam engine train ride and rides on/in model "T"s, Model "A" busses, Horse drawn wagons/carriages and more. Houses and buildings are from Henry Ford, the wright brothers, Etc. I took about two hundred pictures there today.
I lived near there......back in the '40s. Dad took my brother and I several times. Don't think I ever saw the whole place.
Here is a photo that dad took in the 1920s.
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My recollection was that higher octane gas burns more slowly. Increasing the cylinder compression and advancing the timing made for a higher hp motor but it would knock badly especially under load and the solution was to use premium fuel to enjoy the higher performance motor without the damaging preignition. Modern engines with all their sensors and computer controls can adapt to temperature, altitude and dynamically adjust performance within limits. I'm not sure that putting premium into the tank will provide a noticeable change. It would be interesting to learn if you saw an increase in fuel economy, but it might not be enough to warrant the difference in cost.
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7-27-2015 more pictures.

Hi, Lee said I was supposed to post more pictures from the Mackinac Island, so here they are. The Grand Hotel, two light houses, and three main street hotels.
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My recollection was that higher octane gas burns more slowly. Increasing the cylinder compression and advancing the timing made for a higher hp motor but it would knock badly especially under load and the solution was to use premium fuel to enjoy the higher performance motor without the damaging preignition. Modern engines with all their sensors and computer controls can adapt to temperature, altitude and dynamically adjust performance within limits. I'm not sure that putting premium into the tank will provide a noticeable change. It would be interesting to learn if you saw an increase in fuel economy, but it might not be enough to warrant the difference in cost.
Hi, yes; My recollection is the same as yours. Some new or newer vehicles can run different octanes and I'm curious what mine will do with Premium. By Ford, I should be running Premium on this trip because I'm towing.
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I lived near there......back in the '40s. Dad took my brother and I several times. Don't think I ever saw the whole place.
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Hi, cool picture Neil.
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Hi you guys...you will Bob now that you're near the Oregon coast!!! hugs and pats, gail
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He's not nearly near enuff for that.

Hopefully, if he goes to the ocean beaches and drives on the beach, he will thoroughly wash off the underside of his new truck upon return to the safety of the east side of the coast range.

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How's the pooch doing? We have to be very careful what we feed our Maltese when traveling. Their 12 and 13 and the older they get the more sensitive they are to food. Enjoying your posts.
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Hi, Thank You for your concern for Dusty; He's doing a lot better now. We ordered Nachos from a local Mexican restaurant. We gave Dusty a few chips. All three of us had ill effects from eating the Nachos. Heartburn, gas, and stomach ache. Dusty couldn't sleep and either could I. I gave Dusty a dish of cold canned chicken and that eased his pain so he could sleep. I also gave him a baby aspirin wrapped in cheese. Dusty is back to normal again.
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He's not nearly near enuff for that.

Hopefully, if he goes to the ocean beaches and drives on the beach, he will thoroughly wash off the underside of his new truck upon return to the safety of the east side of the coast range.

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Hi, we were a lot closer to the Ocean in Lakewood/Long Beach [8 1/2 miles from the Ocean] and still never saw cars like this Dodge. I think we are about 45 miles away from the Oregon coast.
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Dinner last night.

Hi, last night Lee wanted to go out for a steak dinner and had a place already in mind. Caroline found the name and address for this place, but took us to the wrong end of the same street. Maybe a North / South thing. She wanted me to order a 20 oz. steak to share and she wanted a hamburger too. We did a number on our shared plates, had snacks left over for today and steak and potatoes for Dusty too. We ate at the Dixie Saloon. We noticed the everyone writes there name somewhere in there and we have never done this before, but Lee wrote our names near the window. I guess we can check that off of our non existent bucket list.
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Hi, yes; My recollection is the same as yours. Some new or newer vehicles can run different octanes and I'm curious what mine will do with Premium. By Ford, I should be running Premium on this trip because I'm towing.

My car with a small supercharger gets better milage on mid grade than regular even though it doesn't drive any different. I was skeptical until I went through a few tanks and the numbers didn't lie. The difference in milage more than made up for the extra $$$. I can see how a turbo tow vehicle might react the same way
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