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Old 05-29-2009, 09:47 AM   #81
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I enjoyed following your trip and it made me feel I was still on the road, but Chief and moosetags are still traveling, so I can continue deluding myself. We didn't have as many bugs since we were in colder places for the most part, spent roughly the same on gas and drove 5,250 miles. I never noticed any difference having the Centramatics on, but haven't checked tread depth yet to see if wear pattern has changed.

We turn off our water heater when we aren't going to use it, and that means before the last time we need hot water in the evening. The water stays hot for a very long time. When we turn it off in the morning, and stop in early afternoon for lunch, there's still some hot water to wash hands or whatever—not really hot, but good enough. I'll do anything to save propane since RV parks charge from about 40 to 100% more than I pay to have it delivered at home. Never have had a problem with the water heater lighting, but ours is newer. Propane (and natural gas) appliances are supposed to have larger orifices for the gas the higher you are in altitude, but the appliances in the trailer always have the same orifice and seem to work anyway. A little dirt caught there could affect you at altitude and not a sea level, so maybe a cleaning is all that is necessary. Another version of the water heater (I think it's standard on Classics) comes with an an electric element option—operates automatically when 120 is available, like the refrigerator. There may be a kit to convert to two-way operation. I'll be looking to see if you do the conversion so I can find out if it works for us (you may need a dedicated 120 v. breaker for the water heater, so this may be more of a job than it's worth). I think electrically heated hot water takes about twice as long to heat as with propane, but the campground is paying for the electricity. I think the reason the showers aren't as hot is the water heater works less efficiently at altitude, not because it's cold out. I noticed the water was less hot on parts of our trip, but didn't think it through, so your experience has made me think. Thinking is good.

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Old 05-29-2009, 09:00 PM   #83
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Hot Rod water heater.

Hi, Gene. My thought at this time for the water heater is to buy the kit, but instead of wiring it into my trailer's system, I plan to just run a separate, outside, 120 volt / 15 amp cord. This way I can plug in my 30 amp cord for the trailer and, in most cases, I can plug the 15 amp water heater cord right next to it in the same box. Seems that most campsights have 50/30/15 amp recepticals in the same box. If I find that the box only has a 30 amp receptical, then I can run the 15 amp cord under my trailer and plug it into my trailer's outside receptical.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:41 PM   #84
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Hi, today was the perfect day for an Airstream to get a bath; It was cool and overcast all day. So all traces of bugs are gone [as well as possible] and we are looking like a brand new trailer again. Backed into it's cozy parking spot awaiting it's next adventure.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:46 PM   #85
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Thanks for taking me along on your trip. I had a great time.
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Thanks for the ride-along. Perhaps you'll share more road warrior stories @ Kernville?

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Yes, Bob, another thank you for taking us along. Lynn and I usually journey to a location and stay awhile. That means we take a lot of camping supplies which needs to be loaded....and unloaded! We had an awaking last February when we took our Trade Wind to Toscano's in Los Banos. (BTW a great Airstream service center). We stayed in our coach for 3 night's on their lot while 14' of aluminum was replaced. So there was no need to fill the aisles of the coach with additional stuff! THAT was nice. So perhaps you and Lee's travels will inspire us to do the same soon. The last time Lynn and I 'hit the road' togerther was about 20 years ago. ut I went crazy because I missed our then teenagers at home. Weeeell they ain't teens or at home any more.
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:59 AM   #88
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:31 AM   #89
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Bob,

Just had a thought about the water heater kit to add the electric option. Would it be too much for a 30 amp trailer? With A/C/heat pump, microwave, etc., another resistance item might be more than the system is designed to handle. Does it have a manual switch or is it fully automatic, or automatic with manual option? I'm trying to think where a switch would go.

You re-posted pictures remind me we still haven't washed the Safari (or the truck, or the 4Runner).

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Hi, Gene. I think the draw on an electric water heater might be maginal so my idea was to run a separate power cord. The the second power cord would not really need a switch and the kit has it's own thermostat. There is a separate kit for the switch and receptical, but then you have to cut, drill, and find a place to mount everything. I want to keep it simple by bypassing the trailer's electrical system.
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Your scrubbed up buggy is beautiful! First thing Doug likes to do when we return from a long trip is a good handwash, debug and wax.
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Bob, that's too simple and elegant a solution for me. As I understand it there would be a 120 v. cable coming from the water heater to a 20 amp. receptacle next to the usual 30 amp. one at the campground. If it were me I would try to find a place for a button that lights up because I like things like that.

Lightning Rod is the kit for the water heater I presume. How much does the kit cost?

All you who wash your trailers as soon as you come home: you can wash mine if you're still needing to wash something. I'll supply water and soap.

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All you who wash your trailers as soon as you come home: you can wash mine if you're still needing to wash something. I'll supply water and soap.

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Bob, that's too simple and elegant a solution for me. As I understand it there would be a 120 v. cable coming from the water heater to a 20 amp. receptacle next to the usual 30 amp. one at the campground. If it were me I would try to find a place for a button that lights up because I like things like that.

Lightning Rod is the kit for the water heater I presume. How much does the kit cost?

All you who wash your trailers as soon as you come home: you can wash mine if you're still needing to wash something. I'll supply water and soap.

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Hi, simple, that's what I mean. Plug in the 30 Amp and plug in the water heater on the same camp ground post. As for a light, I wish I had one for my water pump since I think the switch is backwards compared to the two other switches on the monitor panel. I think the Lightning Rod kit is about $100.00 and the switch kit about $60.00 or less? As for the trailer wash, you will have to bring your trailer to Lakewood and try your luck at getting it in my driveway. As for the waxing part, I don't wax my trailer.
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Bob, we, after 14,000 miles, still get confused whether the water pump is on or off. As for your driveway, I might take out part of your house so you'll have to wash it in the street. How do you wash it in that space—go inside, open the window, and throw buckets of water at the Safari?

I think your idea of adding an electric option to the water heater is a very good one. I'm not sure I want to go that route and it seems the water heater uses so little propane, it's not worth it to me. But I'll keep it in mind.

When's you next trip and where?

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You don't wax your trailer? You mean we don't have to wax? Yeehaw!

She's really shiny... What's your secret?

LOVED reading about your trip, thanks for sharing.

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Bob, we, after 14,000 miles, still get confused whether the water pump is on or off. As for your driveway, I might take out part of your house so you'll have to wash it in the street. How do you wash it in that space—go inside, open the window, and throw buckets of water at the Safari?

I think your idea of adding an electric option to the water heater is a very good one. I'm not sure I want to go that route and it seems the water heater uses so little propane, it's not worth it to me. But I'll keep it in mind.

When's you next trip and where?

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Hi, Gene. I have to pull my trailer forward to the edge of the sidewalk to be able to wash my trailer; After it's done I have to move it back next to my house. When I get my ideas all put together on how I want to do the water heater I will post how I did it. When in cold and high altitude areas my water heater has a hard time lighting and make noises in the middle of the night. Propane is cheap, but noisy at times. For now I turn the water heater off at night and back on in the morning. As for the next trip, I want to go to Colorado, maybe in July.

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You don't wax your trailer? You mean we don't have to wax? Yeehaw!

She's really shiny... What's your secret?

LOVED reading about your trip, thanks for sharing.

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Hi, oceanair. My trailer gets washed with a good brand of automotive car wash, right now, I am using Meguires. I wash my trailer before trips and after trips and hose it off in-between. My trailer is outside all of the time. [not stored indoors] I use a soft wash mitt, and a synthetic chamois to dry it. I enjoyed sharing our trip.

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Hi, Gene. No photoshop, it's the real deal. Invitation #1, Learn how to park in my driveway. Invitation #2 Experience how an Airstream door should open and close without slamming it. Invitation #3 See a five year old trailer that has never been waxed and still looks like new.
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Not so random, maybe?

Hi, we planned the forum rally last year so it wasn't so random. On Friday we made it to the "Jackson Rancheria" rally and stayed until Monday morning. It was a great rally with lots of friends, new and old. See the Jackson Rancheria rally thread for more information and fun.
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Hi, our unplanned, plan is to go to South Dakota. Weather permitting, we will see what happens. Monday before noon we left Jackson Rancheria and headed east on HWY 88. Driving throught the winding roads, I saw a deer on the right side of the HWY; He, or she suddenly looked like it was going to cross the street just when we were pretty close. I hit the brakes and the horn, the deer changed his/her mind and ran the other way, saving it's life and spareing my Lincoln's grill. After that Lee and I noticed that our hearts were working very well, pumping hard for quite a while. That night we made it to Winnemucca, NV. Hi-Desert RV Park.
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