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Old 03-01-2021, 05:16 PM   #1
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Big city terror..

We use RV Wizard and it often routes is through large
cities. Even the bypasses can be very stressful with traffic. Suggestions?
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:21 PM   #2
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Get a Road Atlas and do your own planning -- no electricity or Internet required. The major cities have their own pages. You can highlight important routes, and put small notes where needed . . . or stickies . . . Post-its . . .

Large scale spiral bound:

https://www.amazon.com/Rand-McNally-...2802244X&psc=1

Easy to use on the road . . . lies flat wherever you want. No "screen" to have to squint at . . .

For "Big Picture" planning of trips . . . a real time-saver IMO. Covers the entire USA.

Travel safe . . . and . . .
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:35 PM   #3
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I have to agree with Peter - there's no substitute for a good map. Augment your preplanning w/ satellite imagery of any routes/alternatives you're considering and maybe a peek at something like Waze to analyze traffic patterns.
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:45 PM   #4
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PS . . . and kids love these as a family learning exercise, because they can be easily included. A win win for families struggling in these challenging times.

A real bonus when you hit the road, and the kids follow the action with the Atlas. Instead of whining, "When are we going to get there?" . . . they can announce to everyone when!

Fun stuff to watch them learn, and enjoy the planning part of being on the road again!

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Old 03-01-2021, 05:51 PM   #5
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The best atlas is the Rand McNally motor carriers edition, used by truckers! By far the best atlas handbook for larger vehicles. Price for the standard edition is $19.95 and the delux is $39.95. Well worth every penny!
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:52 PM   #6
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Great advice Peter. A lost art indeed!
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:55 PM   #7
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Old 03-01-2021, 05:58 PM   #8
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Sorry I hit send to soon.
What I meant to post was that RV Wizzard has proved to me to be inaccurate at times
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Old 03-01-2021, 06:13 PM   #9
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Sorry I hit send to soon.
What I meant to post was that RV Wizzard has proved to me to be inaccurate at times
And not accurately named.
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Old 03-01-2021, 06:21 PM   #10
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If you have AAA, have them do a Trip Ticket. Tell them what kind of roads you want to drive on... and no cities.
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Old 03-01-2021, 06:25 PM   #11
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The best atlas is the Rand McNally motor carriers edition, used by truckers! By far the best atlas handbook for larger vehicles. Price for the standard edition is $19.95 and the delux is $39.95. Well worth every penny!
I totally agree the best atlas bar none IMO. We use in our trucks, plus a lot of road related laws on back pages.
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Old 03-01-2021, 06:32 PM   #12
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Haven’t used any RV specific kinds; I’ve used Google Maps for years, tho’... I’ll initially let it throw out a route, and if I don’t like some aspect of it, I’ll adjust the route (say, to miss a city). (Also use Waze a bit, and had a Garmin a long time ago, was stolen out of my truck .)
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Old 03-01-2021, 07:06 PM   #13
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You can do trip tiks on line and adjust routes to your preference (6 turns through Sierra Vista that save a half mile, vs. 1 turn) and print them out in a little booklet.
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Old 03-02-2021, 06:56 AM   #14
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The best atlas is the Rand McNally motor carriers edition, used by truckers! By far the best atlas handbook for larger vehicles. Price for the standard edition is $19.95 and the delux is $39.95. Well worth every penny!
Agreed. Truckers used maps only for decades, long before the internet.
It's not a lost skill, it was just never learned by most now.Like the OP says, you get in trouble fast with computer mapping Apps.
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Old 03-02-2021, 07:07 AM   #15
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AAA Trip Tik, an atlas, the dog and a cup of coffee....that's all I need
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I gotta add, there's no substitute for experience.
After driving out west for a number of years, I learned the good and bad routes. A map won't tell you how much traffic will be on I-285 during rush hour. Is it better to just go straight thru? How torn up are the urban interstates? Are there good shortcuts? Are the signs confusing? I can't tell you how many times I took the bypass around St. Louis until I saw the sign "I-70 W to Kansas City", only to find myself right back in downtown St. Louis by the arch.
It's harder without a co-pilot since you're making the decisions while driving.
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I use multiple routing tools and some common sense. I use Google mapping on my laptop, then I use Microsoft Streets and Trips 2013 (last available version) to compare to Google and create a TripTik style route map that I keep on a clipboard on my console. (MS Streets and Trips is a great tool for making maps and turn by turn TripTiks. It allows you to set start/end hours, gas mileage, search for what's in the area and doesn't require an Internet connection once it's installed. It's a shame they quit offering it.)

I plan my trip(s) so that if I'm going through a major city it's not at rush hour or lunch time. I stay in one lane as much as possible and stay at or below the limit. If I'm holding up traffic and it's safe to move over a lane I will do that.

I use my Garmin 65 LMT on the windshield and either Waze or Google Maps on the cell phone for comparison (If they both agree, great. If not, Waze is usually the better choice.). Usually Waze/Google will tell you if there is a faster route, not so the Garmin, although it does have a "detour" option I've never used. Waze has taken me on 2-lane roads twice to get around a major accident area. Once it brought me back onto the Interstate about 20 yards ahead of a complete shutdown.
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