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02-18-2010, 08:00 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,308
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Anyone take their own water?
Going out this weekend and the water at the S.P is not drinkable. A SALINITY issue. Who takes along their own water.......and weight?
Just wondering.
Shane
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02-18-2010, 08:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 23' Safari
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 699
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read this, very informative stuff from dreamstreamr:
Dreamstreamr Odyssey
his whole blog is full of VERY useful info...
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02-18-2010, 08:13 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,967
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THEPILL
Going out this weekend and the water at the S.P is not drinkable. A SALINITY issue. Who takes along their own water.......and weight?
Just wondering.
Shane
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I try and pull out with plenty of water, generally a full tank. I more or less have the WD rigging tweaked for it. I think having the water improves the tow and it certainly nice knowing all the water I could want is there.
Of course, I tend to tow long distances and you are presumably talking about shorter distance. At 8lbs a gallon you can carry quite a bit of water before you see a change in mileage. It would take 25 gallons to equal the weight of one 200lb person. How far do you have to drive to use an extra gallon of fuel carrying a 200lb guy along? To me, its worth the extra fuel to have water on hand or water you like.
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02-18-2010, 08:35 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1992 21' Sovereign
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 98
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We have a friend who has towed her 5th wheel thousands of miles, and have followed her water guidelines with great success. We fill our tank (50 gallons) for the washing and toilet use, and bring along bottled water for drinking. We found the 1.5L bottles in a case at Costco works best--easy to handle for cooking, drinking, etc. We do bring a few gallon bottles of home water to fill the dogs' water bowl. The bottles/case gets put in a plastic box and rides in the shower when traveling. We've tried the 3 gallon bottled water containers as well as 1 gallon for drinking, cooking and found both sizes too awkward.
Since our Airstream is 18 years old, before our first trip we did the bleach in the fresh water tank to disinfect the tank and lines. (I found good info on this here at the forums.) Probably not an issue with your new Airstream. I feel safer drinking the bottled water instead of risking unpleasant problems with an unknown water source.
Hope this helps. Enjoy your first outing. Remember, it'll be a learning experience! Take a notebook along and start the list of things to do/things you need/etc. :-)
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02-18-2010, 08:44 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THEPILL
Going out this weekend and the water at the S.P is not drinkable. A SALINITY issue. Who takes along their own water.......and weight?
Just wondering.
Shane
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Only to drink....bring all drinking water from home.
Water in fresh tank is filtered when filled, drinkable in a pinch.
We boon-dock a lot, always travel with full fresh tank.
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02-18-2010, 08:47 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,967
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THEPILL
....the water at the S.P is not drinkable.
Shane
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I missed that part, you mean you can DRINK water? That is crazy talk.
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02-18-2010, 08:49 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,308
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I bought an external filter. Ill bring my own anyway. Thanks again.
Shane
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02-18-2010, 08:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Don't drink it!
Hi, I fill the fresh water tank for handling, dish washing, toilet, and showers. I put small bottles of water in the refrigerator for my wife and I bring larger water bottles for coffee and cooking. Even though I keep my tank clean and sanitized, I would not drink it; Actually I don't drink water anyway.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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02-18-2010, 09:01 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,308
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How do you know when your holding tank is full w/o looking at the gauge? Will it just equalize if left un attended?
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02-18-2010, 09:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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So, said I, I will check my water tanks
Well, I went out and hooked up the water hose and put some water in the tank. Then I opened the drain valve to flush the tank out. After seeing what came out of the drain...I will never drink...maybe never wash with, onboard water again. How that much mud could be in there is a mystery to me. Looks like I'm in for a major tank sanitizing job tomorrow.
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02-18-2010, 09:09 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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We bring drinking water in jugs for making ice, drinking, making coffee and tea. The undersink filter may or may not be good enough to filter out giardia, and some CG water tastes bad anyway.
We bring anything from a full or partly full fresh water tank depending what's down the road.
Conserving what you have when boondocking can be a challenge. Also, the grey water tank fills up a lot faster than the black tank. We put a dish pan in the kitchen sink and wash dishes in it and then dump that water in the toilet to keep the grey tank from filling too soon.
Gene
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02-18-2010, 09:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THEPILL
How do you know when your holding tank is full w/o looking at the gauge? Will it just equalize if left un attended?
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Hi, if you mean the fresh water tank; Water will flow out of the vent tube, located in the same place as the filler tube.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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02-18-2010, 09:16 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THEPILL
How do you know when your holding tank is full w/o looking at the gauge? Will it just equalize if left un attended?
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You'll know the grey water tank is full when the water is coming up in the shower. The monitor is not too accurate and may need one or more adjustments from the dealer. The sensors get dirty, the wiring connections get dirty and the monitor may fail. You can fill the fresh water tank 5 gallons at a time and learn how accurate that gauge is. You can pour water down a drain 5 gallons as a time and check the grey tank gauge the same way. Just look down the toilet to see how high the stuff is. After a while you get to have a fair idea what's going on from experience.
If I remember correctly, the SS model may have small tanks, so it will be more of a challenge.
Learning all the systems takes time and starting our with short trips is a good idea, building up to longer and longer ones. Looks like you're doing it the right way. Asking all these questions is good so you have fewer surprises, but there will be surprises.
Gene
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02-18-2010, 09:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1970 27' Overlander
Espanola
, Full Timer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,753
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We carry about ten gallons (two large bottles) of purified water, even though we have six large bottle in all. The water supply In Altus here is called industrial water and I am here to tell you do not drink it under any circumstance. We (I doubt) are going to carry water in to lower tanks because of the weight. So we get by on the bottled water.
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02-18-2010, 09:33 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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POI.....Make sure there is air space around the fresh fill hose... and don't fill too fast or you may splode the tank....for real.
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02-18-2010, 09:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,190
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220...221....What ever it takes
Somestimes I travel dry, sometimes with a full tank, it all depends on the availabilty of water and length of trip.
But I try like crazy to not travel with half a tank. My fresh water tank is mounted sideways, and I can feel the water sloshing back and forth.
Towards the end of the season when the tank has been filled and emptied 20 times, I have used the water for cooking. But I usually drink bottled water.
If you are unsure of the quality of water you are drinking, or unsure
of the condition of your plumbing, play it safe.
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02-18-2010, 09:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
San Diego
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 331
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My vote is fill it.
Not that my fresh water tank is all that large but I always like to fill it up before I leave home. The reasons are: sometimes we have stopped and used the toilet in route: We don't have to look for water when we get to our destination: I don't like the idea driving around with 1/2 or 1/3 full tank and having that water shlloshing around. (Shloshing? I can't remember if I have ever seen that spelled before). onomatopoeia
Randy Bowman
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02-18-2010, 09:39 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,967
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A proper bleaching once or twice a year along with properly chlorinated water is sufficient to keep the nasties out. There is absolutely no reason your fresh water system isn't providing excellent drinking water. Absolutely none whatsoever.
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02-18-2010, 09:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Gresham
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
A proper bleaching once or twice a year along with properly chlorinated water is sufficient to keep the nasties out. .
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What is proper bleaching? I know it is a ratio between water & bleach, but don't know the exact amount.
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02-18-2010, 10:13 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,967
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sempi2
What is proper bleaching? I know it is a ratio between water & bleach, but don't know the exact amount.
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I forget the recommended ratios as I figured out my plan a while back and rely on my procedure by rote now. Frankly, just filling with city water and letting it stand several hours and flushing a few times will work wonders.
My procedure: for a 30 gallon tank add 1/4 cup of bleach to a full tank and allow to set several hours. Then pump water through all lines. Again let it set for an extended period. Flush entire system. Then flush 2X with normal treated water. Avoid the temptation to boost the amount of bleach as there is good evidence that diluted bleach solutions are more effective than high concentration bleach for the application. DILUTED bleach and TIME coupled with multiple flushes are the key here. Hope this is helpful
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