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11-09-2014, 12:11 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
Cardiff
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 17
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1st Month in the Books - Here's what we've found - the good, bad and ugly
So we (Claire, 28yrs old, me 37 yrs old and Elton Black Lab 8.5yrs old) took ownership of our 2014 AS International 23D in mid Sep. (previous owners used 4-5x in year 1. Lived in Sacramento). We brought the AS back to San Diego and as of 9/30/14 have spent every night between San Elijo, Coronado, San Onofre, and/or boondocking when reservations were not available.
Here's what we've found:
The Good:
1. everything is better in an AS (life, needs vs. wants, outlook)
2. the bed is very comfortable even with the rounded corner on one side
3. the dinette set up makes more sense than the 2nd bed / lounge area
4. we still cannot believe we can take standing hot showers when on shore power
5. we can go 5+/- days (w/ navy showers) and a Honda 1000 generator boondocked.
6. The fridge/freezer is plenty for our healthy living/eating lifestyle --
7. took some time to figure out our drawers/cabinets organization but i think we're getting close. Dry food goes in pantry door cabinet 1 - cooking supplies in cabinet above that. top cabinet has coffee mugs and plates / glasses. Below silverware rack drawers we have additional cooking utensils and various spices, oils, etc.
8. We get looks at every campground, passerbys that stop to chat and share / ask questions - SOBs dont stand a chance when it comes to 'curb appeal'.
9. Airstream Mike: (our nickname) - for a local guy / mechanic / know-it-all and now friend who's had a fair share of AS experience and wealth of knowledge to pass along. I can't even begin to tell you how critical its been to find someone locally who is a hop-skip-jump away from helping, instructing and advising us.
10. Going from battery to generator to plug in and back around when moving day to day as we have - and NOT having to do anything manually other than plugging in has been one of those we're totally thankful for this feature without probably realizing how nice this feature is.
The Bad
1. Counter top space is tricky. Like - where do you put the removable sink cover/cutting board when not in use?
2. Not AS fault, but having a lab on board, even with sweeping 3x a day, we still get a second pet in swept up hair each time. Crazy. I know this is excessive, but those homes with central vacuum could be really really cool to next edition AS .. for the luxury types.
3. Wardrobe space is def. still getting used to. I ended up sticking a vertical, canvas shoe rack in my closet and using it as clothes divider. In shelf above, i place shoes. I screwed in 5 screws in order to hang belts on inside of door. Works if you roll everything up - Claire just uses a hanger and then shelf above with a plastic bin.
4. Understanding the airflow from fantastic fan. We've pulled the wiring and now instead of On/Off -we have temperature activation meaning that we want the fan to turn on/off automatically when a certain temperature is reached. We are still figuring this out. For now we have had warm days and cool nights and that means I'm getting up and manually overriding. I know in So Cal we have blessed weather - so this will not be a life/death issue but we'd like to automate this.
The Ugly:
1. With just normal wear, we've managed to unscrew the TV antenna handle. PIA to get to stay back on. Any suggestions?
2. We only get the 4 basic channels (FOX, NBC, CBS, ABC and PBS) - except for NFL Football and my alma mater The Amazing Race, I could care less, but NBC seems to 'go weak or no signal' A LOT. Suggestions?
3. Backing up onto our orange blocks for leveling sometimes results in the blocks just moving back and the tires cannot ramp on - we've tried the 'ramp' thing too but on concrete, no bueno. Thoughts?
4. The Zip Dee has had MANY MANY issues - missing acorn nuts - a broken claw on one side (one has already been ordered/replaced -- PS went factor direct and these guys were AWESOME) -
5. The space behind dinette chair upon entry - WTF?? what a terrible design idea -- its just totally inefficient and if we had better carpentry skills we would pull this out and build out shelving/storage/cabinetry ..
6. The stove top burners rotate from when they decide to work and not work (using spark .. .they always work w/ match/lighter) but a little frustrating still ...
So I think that sums up month 1 (actually day 41) -- we are pulling with a 2011 Toyota Tundra 5.7 V8 4x2 (and just yesterday I installed our Prodigy 3 ) so havent had a chance to see difference when pulling but so far this thing is a beast and can hold our outside chairs, tables, firepit, generator, tools, crossbow, 2 5gall tanks, etc.
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11-09-2014, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,652
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Congrats on the new-to-you trailer and the new lifestyle! Everytime my wife and I sit on our comfy couch and watch the Amazing Race, we promise each other that we'd NEVER do that.
Bully to you for doing it - if you have the resilience to do that, living in an Airstream will be cake (as will most other things in life.)
Perhaps the best way to upgrade the Fantastic Vent is with, well, an upgrade kit from them. We put 2 of the top-of-the-line remote-controlled version in ours. We love it because we can throttle it way back, conserving energy when boondocking (it gives you 14 speeds instead of 3.)
Tom
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11-17-2014, 09:30 PM
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Rivet Master 
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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I put Loctite on all my acorn nuts on my Zip Dee to prevent them from unscrewing.
You may need to bend the spark ignitor closer or farther to get a better spark at each burner. If the ignitor is too far the spark can't arc and if too close the spark is weak.
I haven't had any issues backing or pulling up onto my Lynx blocks. Maybe its because you have 14" tires. I suggest placing a block under each tire and kick it in with your foot to try to wedge it in and then try backing or pulling up. You have to start with one block.
Over the air TV is usually limited to the network channels, the remaining locals are usually Spanish and depending on where the closest tower are your mileage may vary. Maybe the Winegard Enhancer is worth looking into for UHF enhancement.
Download the Winegard installation instructions to see if that will help to reassemble you antenna handle.
Looks like you are on the right track.
Kelvin
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11-17-2014, 10:14 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,058
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You may want to consider Winegard's newest RV retrofit antenna which is dual directional and picks up many more channels in lots of locations.
Winegard Rayzar Air Amplified TV Antenna
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11-17-2014, 11:16 PM
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Rivet Master 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,436
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When setting up on a level site, dial down the trailer brakes... it makes rolling up on the ramp things much smoother.
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Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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11-18-2014, 04:36 AM
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New Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Yarmouth
, Maine
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4
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Greetings...sounds like your new lifestyle is working out just great - congrats! Love the comment on "curb appeal"  We place the cutting boards (sink covers) under the couch cushion. Handy "out of the way" location and a safe place to store when traveling. Enjoy!
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11-18-2014, 04:48 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,348
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Lily is a lab mix, and a ridiculous shedder.
I have little hand vacs that do a very quick job of cleaning up the floor.
The one in the Interstate is a 12 volt something, which works very well and holds a charge for several days, the one at home is a Black&Decker Dust Buster....which I like even better as it is smaller and more compact, yet still very powerful.
These take up little space, and don't create the airborne hair that sweeping does. Just a quick zip around and....voila!
Enjoy,
Maggie
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11-18-2014, 05:02 AM
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Rivet Master 
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,943
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As those who own them know, all Labs shed. Ours always have and this 15th month puppy does as well. However, diet helps, her "main" shedding is now only two times a year, the rest is very manageable.
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11-18-2014, 05:36 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,348
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Hmmmm....what kind of diet?
Maggie
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11-18-2014, 06:25 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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You might consider getting an RV/Boat central vacuum, such as this one:
Dirt Devil® Central Vacuum for RV's and Boats
It's 120vAC, because Ohms Law means that 12vDC vacuums either don't suck hard, or don't suck for very long, or both. Which kind of sucks. You already have some waste space you were complaining about, which might be a good spot to install the cannister portion of the central vac.
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11-18-2014, 08:36 AM
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Rivet Master 
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 766
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Congrats!
We have a Husky and although his fur is not such an issue, here in the PacNW we have been having a terrible time with pine needles in the AS.... So, in my normal style I went a little overkill and put a Dyson hand held in there. Super quick to clean anything up, but a little spendy.
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11-19-2014, 05:47 AM
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Rivet Master 
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,943
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Dog Diet
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Originally Posted by Lily&Me
Hmmmm....what kind of diet?
Maggie
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Maggie:
We feed our dogs Flint River Ranch. The product has limited distribution, so we buy it directly from the manufacturer in the US. Made in the US with US ingredients and never had a recall. Due to this when we travel for long periods we end up carrying a lot of dog food, but it seems worth it. We feed much less food than many of the store brands and as mentioned the shedding seems to be less than with previous Labs we have had.
Flint River Ranch
Good luck and safe travels
Bud
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2021 F350 6.7 King Ranch
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11-19-2014, 06:12 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,348
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Thanks,
Bud. I have ordered a sampler pack, but this is a bit pricey, even with free shipping.
I don't see anything in their product information or customer reviews about this food reducing shedding. Was this an intended or accidental outcome?
Lily is a very healthy dog, with a cast iron stomach. Pedigree is her daily brand,. I'll have to find a convincing reason to double the price of her dog food.
Thanks for the info.
Maggie
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11-19-2014, 06:15 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,348
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gsmblue
Congrats!
We have a Husky and although his fur is not such an issue, here in the PacNW we have been having a terrible time with pine needles in the AS.... So, in my normal style I went a little overkill and put a Dyson hand held in there. Super quick to clean anything up, but a little spendy.
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Yep! The little hand-held guys are just as quick, and you have to do a bit of bending and twisting to use them so can count as a bit of exercise.
Maggie
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11-19-2014, 06:34 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2001 16' Bambi
2013 23' International
Piedmont Region
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 411
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Here's what we've found:
The Bad
1. Counter top space is tricky. Like - where do you put the removable sink cover/cutting board when not in use?
-- Like others said, under the cushion or the bed top cover.
2. Not AS fault, but having a lab on board, even with sweeping 3x a day, we still get a second pet in swept up hair each time. Crazy. I know this is excessive, but those homes with central vacuum could be really really cool to next edition AS .. for the luxury types.
-- I use a small wet/dry vac that I got at Home Depot, about $30. Stash it under the bed. Fits right in.
The Ugly:
5. The space behind dinette chair upon entry - WTF?? what a terrible design idea -- its just totally inefficient and if we had better carpentry skills we would pull this out and build out shelving/storage/cabinetry ..
-- That is my dog's closet but is good for other stuff too. It holds a small container of food, the main supply stays in the truck, the leash, and doggie clean up bags. Also great spot for extra canned food items or dry goods. I don't often carry glass but if you take something larger that comes in glass, wine bottles, etc., they can't move around much in there. A bit of bubble wrap and you're set. And, best of all, when you pull that side of the dinette out to put in a recliner, it's all open space.....
Best of luck with it. Sounds like you're off to a good start....
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'13 23D International --- Trixy
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11-19-2014, 08:46 AM
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2020 Classic 33
Box Elder
, South Dakota
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,731
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On the leveling ramp issue consider getting an Andersen Camper Level. 3604 - Camper Leveler Find it much easier and quicker than using blocks.
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2020 Classic 33 Twin, 2019 Ram 3500 Longhorn, ProPride
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11-19-2014, 09:11 AM
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Rivet Master 
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,943
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Maggie:
Yes the breeder we got Abby from uses this food and real food such as chicken etc., and they have cut back on the shedding compared to other Labs. We do not feed he any people food, only The Flint River. With other brands we should feed her about 2 cups twice a day, with Flint we feed her one and quarter cups twice per day. She has maintained her proper weight and has tons of energy. Therefore the cost is not as bad as it seems on the outset.
Safe Travels
Bud
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily&Me
Thanks,
Bud. I have ordered a sampler pack, but this is a bit pricey, even with free shipping.
I don't see anything in their product information or customer reviews about this food reducing shedding. Was this an intended or accidental outcome?
Lily is a very healthy dog, with a cast iron stomach. Pedigree is her daily brand,. I'll have to find a convincing reason to double the price of her dog food.
Thanks for the info.
Maggie
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2020 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2021 F350 6.7 King Ranch
USAF Master Training Instructor (TI) & (MTI)- 68-72
Volunteer K9 Rehabilitator & Trainer
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11-19-2014, 09:16 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 22' Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,348
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Hmmmm, thanks for that info.
The samples will be here, so we'll see from there.
I wonder how diet affects shedding, other than the obvious....malnutrition.
Lily is on a mix of adult and healthy weight Pedigree, per our vet. He doesn't specifically recommend the particular dog food, just the mixture to keep her weight in line. She self-feeds, and eats 2-3 cups a day.
Will ponder it, and thanks for the tip.
Maggie
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12-07-2014, 06:31 AM
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Rivet Master 
2015 30' Classic
Decatur
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 767
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Labradors
I had found that mixing a couple tablespoons of wheat germ to the food helped reduce shedding, dandruff, odor, and made their coats nicer. Although I still find hair from our last Lab, and we lost him eight years ago.
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12-07-2014, 09:02 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,183
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Dog hair is a condiment in some homes...
We've never been able to totally eliminate dog hair anywhere. Clothes, cars, wherever. It's an elemental force of nature 😄
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Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
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