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03-12-2012, 06:48 PM
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#61
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,013
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"We have the technology! We can re-build him!"
Update from wood to aluminum, Add insulation, Update interior.... You're looking at the $ix Million Dollar Scotty or at least Robo Scotty! Ha! Make sure to put the heat coil kit under the floor to keep your toes warm and you will really have a keeper there! LoL! Ed
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1967 Safari Twin "Landshark" w/International trim package
2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
FORUMS MEMBER SINCE 12/16/2004AIR#7110
"My tire was thumping, I thought it was flat. When I looked at the tire, I noticed your CAT!" Burma Shave
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03-13-2012, 12:13 AM
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#62
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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If it's worth doing, it's worth over-doing!
Hobbies rarely make financial sense...
Shari
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03-14-2012, 08:26 AM
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#63
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
HOUSE SPRINGS
, MO
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 625
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Hobbies rarely make financial sense...
Shari
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Isn't that the truth!
Tina
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Tina and Mike
1959 Avion e-20
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03-14-2012, 09:12 AM
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#64
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Hey, to offset the costs, you could print out a bunch of paper "templates" for folks to make their own "Shari's"....
Can you post more pics of the frame?? How does that tongue stay attached to the rest of the trailer? Three welds?
Marc
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03-14-2012, 10:08 AM
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#65
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Ms75Argosy
Hey, to offset the costs, you could print out a bunch of paper "templates" for folks to make their own "Shari's"....
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Hey! Now there's a thought!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Ms75Argosy
Can you post more pics of the frame?? How does that tongue stay attached to the rest of the trailer? Three welds?
Marc
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The pics I have right now are kinda hard to see, I took them with low light at the end of the day - so it's hard to see. The frame, as shown in my earlier post, is a combination of wood & metal and it's hard to tell the difference as it was all coated with a sort of RhinoLiner type material.
I will be soda/sand blasting the metal part of the frame and replacing all the wood - I'll get some better pics when I do. Unfortunately, I'm moving my office this weekend - so I won't be able to get much done for a couple of weeks. But yes, the tongue is just welded to the rest of the frame at the three points - much like an Airstream. But the similarities end there.
The floor is only attached with about 8 elevator bolts, through the floor, then a 2x2 then the frame. The rest of it was held together with those aluminum screw-nails (don't know what they're really called - they're nails with groves) & staples. It's amazing they hold together at all ~ We will be using no nails, only screws when we put it back together.
Also, keep in mind, this trailer is <1000 lbs soaking wet. The strength of the tongue/frame is the least of my concerns.
Shari
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03-14-2012, 01:04 PM
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#66
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Unfortunately, I'm moving my office this weekend - so I won't be able to get much done for a couple of weeks.
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WooHoo! Good news, bad news...the move got postponed! I'll be able to sand blast the frame this weekend! I'll post more pics afterwards ~
Shari
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03-14-2012, 07:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,013
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Dang!
Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Hey! Now there's a thought!!!
The pics I have right now are kinda hard to see, I took them with low light at the end of the day - so it's hard to see. The frame, as shown in my earlier post, is a combination of wood & metal and it's hard to tell the difference as it was all coated with a sort of RhinoLiner type material.
I will be soda/sand blasting the metal part of the frame and replacing all the wood - I'll get some better pics when I do. Unfortunately, I'm moving my office this weekend - so I won't be able to get much done for a couple of weeks. But yes, the tongue is just welded to the rest of the frame at the three points - much like an Airstream. But the similarities end there.
The floor is only attached with about 8 elevator bolts, through the floor, then a 2x2 then the frame. The rest of it was held together with those aluminum screw-nails (don't know what they're really called - they're nails with groves) & staples. It's amazing they hold together at all ~ We will be using no nails, only screws when we put it back together.
Also, keep in mind, this trailer is <1000 lbs soaking wet. The strength of the tongue/frame is the least of my concerns.
Shari
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Now the Market will drop due to the lack of Futures on Ring Shank Nails! Oh well, Guess I can invest in steel frame members and welding supplies! LOL! Waiting to see the next steps..... In photos! Ed
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1967 Safari Twin "Landshark" w/International trim package
2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
FORUMS MEMBER SINCE 12/16/2004AIR#7110
"My tire was thumping, I thought it was flat. When I looked at the tire, I noticed your CAT!" Burma Shave
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03-14-2012, 07:29 PM
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#68
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGED52
Ring Shank Nails
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Ahhh...ring shank nails, huh?! Thanks, now I know, what not to buy ~
More pics to come...
Shari
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03-14-2012, 07:42 PM
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#69
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Guess those Scotty's have really well balanced running gear! Wow, glad the move is off for a bit... this winter weather has me "pining" for more!
Marc
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03-16-2012, 08:22 PM
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rockwasher
1965 22' Safari
shady cove
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
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anyone heard of bellwood
looking at a 1954 bellwood 13 ' anyone know about these trailers
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03-19-2012, 09:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Nope, I don't know much about them - but I did see one for sale awhile back on the TCT Classifieds, it was in Washington - are you the one that bought it? CUTE!!!
There are so many little canned ham brands out there - it's almost like they are regional. You may want to start a new thread with Bellwood in the title - maybe someone will chime in with more information. I'm afraid your inquiry will just get lost here in this thread.
Good luck in finding out more about it - post pictures when you can ~
Shari
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03-19-2012, 10:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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So I spent the weekend, scraping off undercoating from the frame - then I sandblasted it. It's actually in really great shape - the undercoating did the trick even though it was a bear to remove! This evening, I put my first coat of POR-15 - it looks great! Right now everything else is in piles in our yard - what a mess! But even though it looks like a mess, the piles are somewhat organized.
I also polished up a hubcap just to see if the shine would come back...it did!
#1 Frame after scraping
#2 Yours truly sandblasting (I still am finding sand in my ears!)
#3 Frame after sandblasting
#4 Frame after POR-15
#5 Hubcaps - "as found" on left, hand polished w/Turtle Wax chrome polish on right - not bad!
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03-19-2012, 10:28 PM
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#73
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Here's more pics...
#1 Side templates
#2 Axle (with all the undercoating crud on the ground)
#3 "Floor" & "Top" template pile
#4 Skin templates & mis-matched tires it came with
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03-20-2012, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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What are you going to call this? A "top off, bottom off, sides off, running gear off, floor off" restoration?
Zep
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03-20-2012, 07:27 AM
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#75
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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"Blown up, sir!"
Shari
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03-20-2012, 07:28 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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A heavy "D" check. Complete disassembly and total reconstruction. Awesome!
Shari,
I know you've probably been told this, but your axle has definitely taken a "set"!
Nice work from you, as always and great documentation!
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Work is never done, so take time to play!
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03-20-2012, 01:21 PM
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#77
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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Nothing wrong with that axle. Seriously, nothing is wrong with that axle. The springs do sometimes snap however.
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03-20-2012, 03:02 PM
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#78
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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You're right. There is nothing wrong with the axle...or the frame or the springs. This trailer sat more than it traveled, thus the roof rot. The wood portions of the frame actually looked good, no rot, just dirty. The floor looked good too, except for the ugly vinyl - so its getting replaced. The axle has no rubber like a duro-torque, just the springs which upon inspection appear sound. It' staying. It is an easy bolt-on axle that can be replaced anytime if it fails.
Shari
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03-20-2012, 03:59 PM
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#79
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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It takes a lot to kill a Scotty axle. They weren't made to be replaced every few years like the Dura torques.
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03-20-2012, 07:40 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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I know there is nothing wrong with it. Just a little attempt at forum humor.
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Work is never done, so take time to play!
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