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Old 03-18-2016, 06:31 PM   #21
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Like JDS, we went from an AS (a restored 1970 25' Caravanner) to a Bowlus. I agree with everything JDS said about the Bowlus and the comparison to the AS. It is very comfortable. We've camped in Death Valley in the summer and in the Sierra Nevada mountains in the winter. And the size is perfect for us.

To give you a sense of towing efficiency, with a ML350 Bluetec (bought it for the AS), which gets 28 MPG without towing, we got 16 MPG towing the AS. We get 23 MPG towing the Bowlus. Absolutely no sway in heavy cross winds. And when you've unhitched it from the TV, one person can push it around the camp site.

They are not expensive when you consider what you get for the money. Top quality materials, design, systems, fabrication and performance. And we've gotten to know and really enjoy John Long and Helena Mitchell. Like JDS, I'm happy to answer questions, PM or chat by phone.
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Old 05-30-2016, 12:45 PM   #22
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Tinting, JSD,

I'm thinking about a bowlus too. How long did it take from order to delivery and what options were available at the time of your order? (anything you would have ordered or done differently?)

I see that you must place an order with deposit before you can tour their facilities and a bowlus. Any recommendations on where to see one?

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Old 05-30-2016, 01:13 PM   #23
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Looks like a great trailer. The design and quality come through in the photos and web site.
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Old 05-30-2016, 05:57 PM   #24
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Totally agree. It's a big price but the quality looks top notch. I'm wondering where Airstream will price the Nest Caravan (yes, in different league from the Bowlus). Coming retirement will mean time to travel - I'm thinking the Bowlus is the way to go but still have questions. GL.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:55 AM   #25
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Tinting, JSD,

I'm thinking about a bowlus too. How long did it take from order to delivery and what options were available at the time of your order? (anything you would have ordered or done differently?)

I see that you must place an order with deposit before you can tour their facilities and a bowlus. Any recommendations on where to see one?

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Scott, I suggest you contact Bowlus directly for delivery time as it changes. I think the best place to see one would be their Henderson, NV facility and you would need to coordinate that visit with Bowlus.

When I got ours it came with everything. I see now they have two different levels but I would not be without the screen front door or the kitchen drawer. Best to look at one in person.

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Old 05-31-2016, 11:07 AM   #26
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I'd love to see a Bowlus in person, but would not be willing to reserve one before doing so. Still, it seems they are selling the trailers as fast (or faster) than they can make them.

Maybe someday we'll wind up camping near one and do the same thing with them that Airstream looky-loos do with us all the time. Don't worry, we'll bring some beer or wine for the tour guide.
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John and Helena had one on display at AirVenture in Oshkosh last year. We toured just at lunch, interrupting John's meal. No problem, they were very gracious.

If Henderson is too far to go, perhaps Wisconsin in late July, if they will be displaying again this year. There are a few other benefits, like 12,000 airplanes and over 40,000 people camping in everything from tents to Prevosts.
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Thanks John. Will reach out to them.

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Old 06-01-2016, 11:38 AM   #29
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We'd love an excuse to visit the Tahoe / Reno / Henderson area someday, and now it seems we have one.

Apparently, I mis-read their website: Now that I read it again, it seems you can visit their Henderson, NV, showroom by appointment - even without reserving a unit.

If you want to tour their factory, however, you'd need a reservation for a unit. Seems reasonable, especially if it's a small factory.
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Bowlus groups or gatherings???

Question for John and Tintini: Are there any formal or informal groups or gatherings of Bowlus owners?

When we had our Airstream, we certainly enjoyed the company of others. We were Charter Members of the WBCCI Four Corners Unit, for example.

This afternoon we spent over an hour with John Long going over every inch of the Bowlus Road Chief at the PCA Werks Reunion in Carmel Valley.

My wife absolutely loves the trailer. Towing it would be a breeze with our new BMW X3 with a 2-liter diesel. The size is just right for us and the quality of the engineering and craftsmanship is unmatched in the RV world.

As much as we loved our Airstream, the Bowlus is in a league of its own. (You make a great trailer, Peter, but I'm sure you'll agree that the Bowlus is technically and stylistically superior? BTW, Peter is the "OR" in Thor and an old college classmate.)
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Integrated Heating & AC Unit?

I was wondering about the AC Units cooling capability, Also, what type and model is placed in her?
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Ordered ours on Monday...

...after getting the full tour of the Bowlus Road Chief from John Long on Friday at the PCA Werks Reunion in Carmel Valley.

Within minutes we were hooked. We put 50,000 miles on our 75th Anniversary Edition Airstream 25FB and hope to travel even more with this rolling work of art. Hoping to pick up Endymion sometime before March.

Towing this trailer behind our BMW X3 xDrive 28D should be considerably easier than towing the 25FB with our Dodge Durango Hemi. Not only is the Bowlus less than half the weight, but the BMW has more useable torque down where you need it.

Can't wait to start new adventures.

Oh, yes, if you see Endymion on the road, that will be us.
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I was wondering about the AC Units cooling capability, Also, what type and model is placed in her?
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Mine has an 8,000BU Soleus A/C, and it cools like a demon!

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Question for John and Tintini: Are there any formal or informal groups or gatherings of Bowlus owners?

When we had our Airstream, we certainly enjoyed the company of others. We were Charter Members of the WBCCI Four Corners Unit, for example.

This afternoon we spent over an hour with John Long going over every inch of the Bowlus Road Chief at the PCA Werks Reunion in Carmel Valley.

My wife absolutely loves the trailer. Towing it would be a breeze with our new BMW X3 with a 2-liter diesel. The size is just right for us and the quality of the engineering and craftsmanship is unmatched in the RV world.

As much as we loved our Airstream, the Bowlus is in a league of its own. (You make a great trailer, Peter, but I'm sure you'll agree that the Bowlus is technically and stylistically superior? BTW, Peter is the "OR" in Thor and an old college classmate.)

I'm not aware of any member groups for the Bowlus but would love to be in a group.

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John,

So far we've identified 3 on this forum. In time, perhaps we can compile a list of others. There have to be about two dozen so far and I believe that quite a few are in production now. The shows last week were good for John, Helena, and Geneva.
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That poor trailer needs some love.
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So cool! Only criticism is the lack of an oven, not a big fan of wasting space for a microwave.

I hope Airstream takes note and perhaps builds some of its smaller trailers to be more in line with some of the earlieriest models.
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Please tell me about your 8,000 BTU. Is this a dual hose portable unit, single hose exhaust unit, or a window designed unit?
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