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Old 02-27-2008, 08:02 PM   #101
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Jim,

One thought is to go on Google and type flying cloud. I happened to be doing that yesterday and several came up. Some were for sale but I did not check to see how old the ads were or if they were still available. We've found our last two on Craig's list. You have to go in and check each city...

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Just FYI, there's a quicker way to scan multiple Craigslist cities, but you'll need Mozilla Firefox rather than MS Internet Explorer to do it. Go to crazedlist.org : search craigslist like a madman and follow the directions, and then you can scan entire regions at a time.

I saw this mentioned on another thread here, so I can't take credit for it, but it works really well.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:35 PM   #102
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Thanks for the tip utee94. I did not know that so I've been doing it the very hard way.

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Old 03-25-2008, 03:54 PM   #103
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i FINALLY ordered the waste tanks today. after many months of back and forth i finally bit the bullet.

i decided to go with ABS tanks because you can add your fittings exactly where you want them (this is a HUGE advantage to anyone contemplating new tanks). it's more difficult to do that with the polyethelene tanks because of difficulties in welding.

i'm still not sure why many places in southern california are only doing the polyethelene tanks. i had to go to our good neighbors to the north to get the ABS sizes that i liked (best prices i found on the internet too), where they say pro-cess, not pra-cess like most people in the states. i am french canadian for what it's worth, and i do say pra-cess as i was born and raised in the states.

i'll be ordering the fresh tanks which will be polyethelene soon.

it may not seem that big a deal to most people, but this is a huge hurdle cleared for me.
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:58 PM   #104
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it may not seem that big a deal to most people, but this is a huge hurdle cleared for me.
I know the feeling! Ordering tanks is HUGE!!! Congratulations on clearing another hurdle towards the finish line ~

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Old 03-25-2008, 04:25 PM   #105
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... i had to go to our good neighbors to the north to get the ABS sizes that i liked (best prices i found on the internet too)....
Do you mind posting the link to where you got your tanks?

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Old 03-25-2008, 06:02 PM   #106
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Do you mind posting the link to where you got your tanks?
oops, forgot, here it is, Wind Deflectors : Tonneau Cover : RV Parts : Custom Plastic Products by Icon Technologies - Icon Technologies Limited

if you have any questions, give em a call and ask for george, he was very helpful.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:08 AM   #107
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I am right in the middle of tank ordering for 2 1954 FC's would you mind sending along the specs and sizes of you tank order.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:26 AM   #108
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David, I would like the information also for my 55 Flying Cloud.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:31 AM   #109
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hi all,

well, i have a little setback. i completely tore my achilles tendon and need surgery this thursday. i'll be off my feet for 6-8 weeks. it's a drag but i've already planned to dig out my guitar and start playing it again and maybe picking up some spanish dvds so i can learn spanish. fortunately i can continue work at my architectural office somewhat and somehow.

for jim and don,

here's my order list. note that i ordered the 32 gallon gray tank without the 3" spigot fitting and will put my own 1.5" fitting that i also ordered from icon. also note that i'm cutting out the old angles and putting in new 2x4 steel cross members so i didn't have to stay constrianed to the existing framing.
the tanks have a lip on them so depending on what they look like when i get them, i may end up hanging the tanks with straps and utilizing the lip rather than concocting a steel substructure below to support them. will see when i get them.my tanks will be here shortly and hang around for a couple of months before i can install them.

QTY 1
SKU 00813
PRODUCT HT706-ED : Center End Drain Holding Tank : 15 Gal : 3" Spigot
fitting
PRICE SD $139.00SD $139.00

QTY 1
SKU 00421
PRODUCT 1.5" Flush Slip Holding Tank Fitting
PRICE USD $5.99 USD $5.99

QTY 1
SKU 00424
PRODUCT 3" Spigot Holding Tank Fitting
PRICE USD $8.27 USD $8.27

QTY 1
SKU 00519
PRODUCT 1.5L Black Holding Tank Adhesive
PRICE USD $19.95USD $19.95

QTY 1
SKU 00445
PRODUCT HT704-ED : Left End Drain Holding Tank : 32 Gal : No Fittings
PRICE SD $189.00SD $189.00

QTY 3
SKU 00421
PRODUCT 1.5" Flush Slip Holding Tank Fitting
PRICE USD $5.99USD $17.97

QTY 1
SKU 00519
PRODUCT 1.5L Black Holding Tank Adhesive
PRICE USD $19.95USD $19.95


Subtotal: SD $400.13
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Total: SD $400.13
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Old 03-29-2008, 02:14 PM   #110
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David,

Sorry to hear about your need for an operation. The upside I guess is it's not yet summer/camping season so you can sit back and heal properly. My buddy did this same thing two years ago and it was 6 weeks before he was able to get around on his own - he was not impressed with the need to have his wife chauffer him everywhere. His was the right leg.

That's good information on the tanks. Two friends are going to be doing their Flying Clouds this summer and I'll make sure they see this information.

Take care and heal fast.

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Old 03-29-2008, 05:49 PM   #111
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Urbanfood, thanks for the information on the tanks. Sorry to hear about your injury. As SafarI57 said, at least your recovery time won't be during camping time. I have really been enjoying your thread. Thanks
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Very sorry to hear about your setback, thank you very much for the tank info.
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Old 04-12-2008, 12:50 PM   #113
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thanks for the well wishes. i'm hanging out at home recovering at the moment. i've been off the pain meds for 4 days so i've been feeling normal the last several days. i must say, this weekend is gorgeous in socal and i'm already getting bored sitting around. i think i can have a friend help me next weekend and i can do some work on the frame.

the black tanks arrived this week, they are great. i'm glad i went the ABS route, they seem strong and the fact i can install my own fittings is a huge plus.

i have a question; the tanks come with a 1.5" lip on them so my plan is to weld an angle just down from the top of the frame and the tanks will sit on this angle (it'll have to be bolted on one side so i can drop the tanks to remove them). so the tanks will "hang there" if you can picture it. i can't build a box frame as a i originally planned because the tanks don't have square edges.

so my question is obviously the lip is probably not strong enough to support the tank with water (alone that is), but it allows the tanks to fit into position and then i can strap them in from underneath, sort of like hanging the tanks and supporting them with straps. has anyone used anything for straps that you could cinch tight and snug enough. i'd probably use three, two near each end and one in the middle. not sure how the strapping idea would work. any suggestions?
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can you post a photo of the tanks? what does the vendor say about hanging the tanks by the flanges?

Something like this might work, if you've got room. Turn the top of the threaded rod support stuff parallel the tank to fit better. This would allow lots of adjustment changing the overall dimensions at all.

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Old 04-12-2008, 03:47 PM   #115
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zep, i'm hanging the tanks from the NEW 2x4 crossmembers i'm going to be installing so i won't need the threaded rod idea, tanks are at my office but i did a skecth of the idea;

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the strapping is the thing i'm having the issue.

also, zep, how are you getting your thumbnail images to read so strongly? i've been playing with the penweights in autocad but my thumbnail still looks weak.
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David, nice drawing. I don't know how else to "cinch" up your strap.

I'm using Autosketch. It was an independent CAD company years ago, but AutoCAD bought them and that was the last upgrade--I'm guessing my copy is now over 8 years old. It's simple but fully DXF file compatible. I guess the line selections, when you are thicker than "thinest", are pretty coarse, but they get the job done for me. But you can't save to .JPG with Autosketch (or any other image file, just CAD files).

It may be the method by which I make the image. I have a program called Print Screen Deluxe (shareware)--been using it for about 5 years. It copies the screen pixels one-for-one and can store the image in any common image file format. You just hit "print screen" and select the area of the screen with the mouse. Piece of cake.

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2d and 3d drawings.

Zep and urbanfood, you might be interested in the program "Google SketchUp". There is a free download form Google. It is an amazing program and easy to use and there many many tutorials on how to use it on Youtube.
Here is my Picasa site for you to see some examples.
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I also use a free version of Kerkythea and rendering program to creat final images. If you have any further question about the programs, let me know.
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can you post a photo of the tanks? what does the vendor say about hanging the tanks by the flanges?

Something like this might work, if you've got room. Turn the top of the threaded rod support stuff parallel the tank to fit better. This would allow lots of adjustment changing the overall dimensions at all.

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I'm also in the process of ordering tanks for my 55 Safari and I really like the concept of running the threaded bolts. Will add spacer/plate that will catch the tank flange and design the belly pan for the ease of removing if the tanks need to be removed later on.......

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Zep and urbanfood, you might be interested in the program "Google SketchUp". ...
I also use a free version of Kerkythea and rendering program to creat final images. If you have any further question about the programs, let me know.
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Don, you are quite the graphic artist. Did Google Sketchup produce the stuff on your Picasa site?

I usually use my CAD program for engineering type drawings. If I go 3D, it's with a camera!

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Zepp, thanks for the kudos. Yes everything was done with SketchUp. The rendersing that have a photo type look were done in the program Kerkythia.
Have you taken a look at SketchUp yet. I think you will like it. I've worked with many programs and I like SketchUp because of its ease.
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