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03-25-2007, 01:19 PM
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OrangeKid
2013 23' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 166
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Stupid Awning Tricks
We had never used our awning on our 23' Safari SE LS in our first two trips, but during our third outing to Zion it was warm one afternoon and we decided to open the awning after a day of hiking. We had not opened it since the dealer showed us how and thought we remembered how to open it.
My wife pulled out the awning with the long hook and I attached both rafter arms on the snap stud assemblies of the main arm tubes instead of on the shaft of the roller. I then proceeded to extend the rafter arms on both sides. The result was severely bent main tubes and main arms bars on both ends of the awning. The awning was up, but there was no way we were going to retract it.
We had to unbolt the main tube arm from the lower attachment point on both ends of the awning in order to retract it. After unbolting both arm tubes the awning almost fell but luckily we were able to grab it, roll it up and attach the latches. Using duct tape we taped the main arm tubes to the rafter arms and lower hinge bars in order to drive home.
Ziip Dee was happy to sell us the front and rear main arm bar and the front and rear main arm tube assembly for $228 delivered. The repair was easy and straight forward. The awning is like new. I guess the moral of the story is read the instructions before doing something stupid like this, especially when one is tired.
Our camping neighbors were very nice people and pretended nothing was wrong as we struggled with our awning for several hours. We all had a big laugh over it after the ordeal was over.
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03-25-2007, 01:29 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 16' Safari
Rohnert Park
, California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 24
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I did the same thing on the second trip with my new trailer. The awning was easily fixed with new parts, etc., but it was a frustrating weekend spending several hours at the campground trying to figure how to safely get home with a bent awning...
bk
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03-25-2007, 01:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
NW of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 987
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Well that's great that you can laugh it off as experience under the belt. I have to tell you that for me it doesn't get any easier each time I pull the awning out. I have to stop, think, go back, try again, before the light bulb finally comes on. I have even resorted to the instructions when the light bulb was a little slow. The thing that I always remember that the dealer told us when he showed us how to do the awning is "you should never have to use force". So when I get to the point I feel I'm using force, I recheck, and yell, "Doug! Could you come here for a minute?" That last part prob'ly won't work for you though.
-Jamie
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Doug & Jamie, AIR #650
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03-25-2007, 01:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Lady Lake
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 355
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Thanks for the information!
Sorry that happened, but thanks for the information. We have had our 2007 Safari 23' for two weeks, but have not tried to put the awning out. Now, we will read and follow the directions! I did not know it bent so easily.
Thanks again!!
Pat
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03-25-2007, 01:45 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,616
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Here is another tip:
If it is raining when you go to bed,
roll the awning back up for the night!
Check out the bend in that arm!
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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03-25-2007, 01:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
NW of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
Here is another tip:
If it is raining when you go to bed,
roll the awning back up for the night!
Check out the bend in that arm!
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Or if it's raining lightly, make one arm a little shorter to tilt the awning just slightly and the rain will roll off the "downspout".
-J
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Doug & Jamie, AIR #650
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03-25-2007, 02:24 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
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Yep, I've bent the support arms on my SOB awning years ago in a rain storm before someone tipped me off on the proper way to set the awning (if you weren't goint to be around to attend to it).
Those awings can take a lot of rain if you remember to tip one side lower than the other. Tip it enough and you can take a deluge without damaging the awning. Now wind is another story.....
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-25-2007, 03:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 28' Funeral Coach
Belleview
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,635
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Awnings... like pop up tents... should go to bed before you do..
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1984 28' Funeral Coach
Former Rolling Showroom & PuttLab (now party bus)
"I'm not an expert. But I did sleep in an Airstream last night."
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03-25-2007, 05:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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gee... zip dee....?
I'm not being overly impressed by the Zip Dees on the new ones.... they seem so fragile! My A&E is really sturdy compared to these... and easy to put out too. Too bad they're not making them anymore...
Marc
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03-25-2007, 05:04 PM
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OrangeKid
2013 23' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 166
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Our awning was bent similar to azflycaster's but not as much. I did not have the presence of mind to take some photos.
starflyte1 the arms are very strong but when they are extended they act as levers and a moderate perpendicular force in the middle can bend them. The instructions are clear but I was too lazy pull then out. I can recall thinking before any damage was done that I really ought to read the instructions. After the damage I wished I had.
dougjamie I can laugh it off now, but not while we were struggling with the awning not sure how we were going to roll it up and be able to drive home. No one was injured amd no permanent damage to the trailer resulted so I can now laugh it off and take it as a lesson learned. Setting one arm shorter that the other is a good way to allow water to run off the awning and keep the awning from being damaged.
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03-25-2007, 05:26 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Ms75Argosy
I'm not being overly impressed by the Zip Dees on the new ones.... they seem so fragile! My A&E is really sturdy compared to these... and easy to put out too. Too bad they're not making them anymore...
Marc
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While at first inspection the Zip-Dee seems to be a light weight compared to some of the massiveness of the A&E line, I've found my Zip-Dee is a much more stable awning in wind than my old A&E was on my SOB. In setting it up I also appareciate that you don't have to be a gorilla in dealing with those awning arms.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-25-2007, 06:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Excella
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 563
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Me too! Me too!
I did the very same thing as I was inspecting my trailer for potential purchase. I drove back two weeks later to haul it home, with a couple of brand new hinge bars sitting on the seat beside me.
Apparently, this is my preferred method of learning new things.
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03-25-2007, 06:38 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Rtfm!
The first thing we learned in the RV tech certification course.....RTFM!!!
As this is a family oriented forum, I will not detail what all the letters mean, but it says 'read the .....manual'. You can fill in the blanks appropriately
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lewster
Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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03-25-2007, 07:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Putnam
, Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,064
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
The first thing we learned in the RV tech certification course.....RTFM!!!
As this is a family oriented forum, I will not detail what all the letters mean, but it says 'read the .....manual'. You can fill in the blanks appropriately
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Come on Lew, you're taking all the fun out of being a guy.
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03-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Over59
Come on Lew, you're taking all the fun out of being a guy.
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Remember...................I'm 'SUPPOSED' to be the professional .
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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03-25-2007, 07:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Excella
Broken Arrow
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 673
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Manuals
So many cars, appliances, even sewing machines today have so many more capabilities.
My wife's sewing machine repair guy refers to the computer machines as RTB machines(READ THE BOOK).
My neighbor across the street is still trying to figure out how to chorted the time the headlights turn off on his 99 Buick.
Beginner
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03-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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Certifiable
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
Remember...................I'm 'SUPPOSED' to be the professional .
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The guy the guys call after being a guy.
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03-25-2007, 08:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Experienced?
Hi, it was some-what difficult for me to set up my awning at first too; But, now everytime I set it up, we get some wind and my wife tells me "Roll it back up before the wind ruins it." There-fore Mine has been opened and closed several times already, but not used much.
Also when setting up my awning, My wife, still, times me with a Sun Dial.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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03-26-2007, 12:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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We used to have a SOB 5th wheel. I sometimes deployed the awning while it was parked across from our garage to shelter our convertible from the sun. One time we were in town (in another car) when a sudden rain storm hit. When we arrived home we found the awning had collected all the raindrops that must have fallen and looked like a very large bladder of water.......directly over the convertible. There must have been 100 gallons, certainly enough water to fill the convertible like a bath tub. My first thought was to carefully back the convertible out from under that mother of all cloudbursts but noticed that the awning was resting on the top of the windshield, most likely saving it from collaspsing. So I very carefully draped a garden hose into the "bladder" and siphoned much of the water out then moved the convertible. Then I retrived a cold one from the garage refer and sat on the deck. Whew!
Neil.
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FreshAir #12407
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Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid
1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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03-26-2007, 04:09 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1986 31' Sovereign
1975 25' Tradewind
1967 17' Caravel
Sherfield English
, Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 700
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Eponimosity...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Over59
Come on Lew, you're taking all the fun out of being a guy.
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We need guys like Mr Farber! Otherwise we'd all be Mr Fubar!
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