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12-09-2003, 02:37 PM
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Wallpapering
After reading all the messages regarding interior wall refinishing, I noticed that there are no mentions of using walpapers.
Is there a reason that one cannot use wallpapers?
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12-09-2003, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Wallpaper
The kitchen area of the '87 as wallpapered about 6 months ago.
Cleaned the original finish with a strong Clorox solution prior to papering.
So far, no problems.
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Trailer '78 31' Sovereign
Living Large at an Airstream Park on the Largest Lake Totally Contained in Texas
Texas Airstream Harbor, Inc.
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12-09-2003, 03:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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I was thinking of doing the same thing in the front and rear areas, only using a fabric thick enough so that the rivets are not too pronounced. Will probably use a contact adhesive.
Dick
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12-09-2003, 03:43 PM
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Rivet Master
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Actually there has been some posts on this, but they may be pretty burried.
I have done, and will do some more papering on the wood partitions. On mine, the "wood" vinyl is solidly attached, so it is just a matter of using vinyl compatible glue.
The inside vinyl coated aluminum would be something more of a challenge, although it seems that it has been done by a few people as well. The rivet heads alone will dissuade me.
Mark
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12-10-2003, 07:24 AM
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Rivet Master
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Last year we tried to wallpaper the wood effect vinyl coated bulkhead walls in our Excella. After two days the wallpaper started peeling off. We went to a specialist shop and took advice, and used the recommended sanding and priming methods, and special adhesive, and after three attempts and three wasted days, the paper still came off after a week. We gave up, and spray painted. This has been a great success. Nick.
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12-10-2003, 07:49 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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Wallpaper will not bond to the finished walls unless you use a wall prep solution.
The one we used was "Key Redi-Wall". It is applied directly to the wall with a brush and is ready to paper over in just a few hours.It is a very thin, milky appearing solution and is not messy or any problem to use. It seems to eliminate the gloss from the surface and allow the glue on the paper to bond.
Our first attempt also fell off the wall but when we prepped it with the treatment it is doing fine. Six months and still bonded perfectly.
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12-16-2003, 12:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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ke4pk
Would you happen to know from the label if your prep was a water based urethane? Mabey they might have called it cyanoacrylate?
Dick
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11-05-2004, 02:51 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Superglue
Quote:
Originally Posted by Navigator
ke4pk
Would you happen to know from the label if your prep was a water based urethane? Mabey they might have called it cyanoacrylate?
Dick
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Cyanoacrylate is Superglue.
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03-28-2008, 02:59 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Chandler
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Put vinyl wall covering on my Argosy three years ago and it's still hanging in there. The trailer came with vinyl wall covering when new and I used a heat gun to remove the old peeling stuff then replaced it. I've also used vinyl wall covering in the Sovereign to cover a cracked end cap. It is still in place after a hard winter. Perhaps it helped to clean the walls with "Marine Clean" and rinse them good to get all the greasy, sticky, whatever that stuff is, off the walls before you cover them. Here are some pics of the Argosy walls. We also covered the wood panel by the door to brighten up the trailer. Also, here's the end cap covering in the Sovereign. Now that was a job to hang it upside down on a curved surface.
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09-24-2008, 10:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Excella 500
portland
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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wallpaper
what kind of paper did you use and also the adhesive?
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Originally Posted by juel
Put vinyl wall covering on my Argosy three years ago and it's still hanging in there. The trailer came with vinyl wall covering when new and I used a heat gun to remove the old peeling stuff then replaced it. I've also used vinyl wall covering in the Sovereign to cover a cracked end cap. It is still in place after a hard winter. Perhaps it helped to clean the walls with "Marine Clean" and rinse them good to get all the greasy, sticky, whatever that stuff is, off the walls before you cover them. Here are some pics of the Argosy walls. We also covered the wood panel by the door to brighten up the trailer. Also, here's the end cap covering in the Sovereign. Now that was a job to hang it upside down on a curved surface.
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06-07-2009, 12:27 PM
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Power to the People !
1972 31' Sovereign
SAN DIMAS
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Join Date: May 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juel
Put vinyl wall covering on my Argosy three years ago and it's still hanging in there. The trailer came with vinyl wall covering when new and I used a heat gun to remove the old peeling stuff then replaced it. I've also used vinyl wall covering in the Sovereign to cover a cracked end cap. It is still in place after a hard winter. Perhaps it helped to clean the walls with "Marine Clean" and rinse them good to get all the greasy, sticky, whatever that stuff is, off the walls before you cover them. Here are some pics of the Argosy walls. We also covered the wood panel by the door to brighten up the trailer. Also, here's the end cap covering in the Sovereign. Now that was a job to hang it upside down on a curved surface.
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In your post about wallpapering you mentioned that you cleaned well. I am specifically interested on what method, product you used on the endcap. Both for cleaning prep and for what product (wallpaper) you used. Was it self adhesive type vinyl? Is it still adhered well? It sounds like a great alternative to painting it. I will send you an email too.
Thanks in advance for you help.
Mary
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06-07-2009, 01:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
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The original vinyl sheeting, that Airstream used was flexible PVC. That means it contains liquid plasticizers. These start to "spew" after many years and give the sticky surface that people complain about. This 'spewed" degraded plasticizer can and frequently will degrade the adhesive used to bond the new wallpaper to the surface. You need to clean and prime the existing wall with barrier primer to help the new wall paper not peel. I am not sure who makes the best barrier primer for the job.
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