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07-31-2016, 06:30 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1981 27' Excella II
Clovis
, California
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 28
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Help with cushions please
Hi I am restoring our new-to-me 1981 Excella II. I am not unfamiliar with fabrics and re-upholstering things, but I'd love some advice on the actual cushions. The full size gaucho will be the primary bed for a couple; my husband is 6'4' and a big guy. The frame is in good shape; the PO had the entire thing done in red leather - not my taste. (I am probably going to go for a fawn colored leather or ultra suede myself.) I understand doing the accessory pieces - triangle arms, L-shaped pieces, and front pull-out bar, but on the actual big cushion - the PO had a single piece with three deep seams making four full, hard sections. This gives a sporty look to the sofa when folded up and is uncomfortable to lie on when open. What is the most luxuriously comfortable cushion set-up others have used for this to be the primary bed on a long trip? Does a futon stay folded on a gaucho?? (Money is not an issue on this one important purchase.) Any help would be appreciated so I know what I am talking about when I call around to get someone to make it for me.
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07-31-2016, 07:38 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,006
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There are various options for dealing with your question.
One is to use a memory foam topper. Thickness and density will be a function of your body types. They generally stay in place while sleeping.
Another is to change the core foam in the cushions. Below are links to an explanation about foam types and use. Again, body type and weight is a key factor in selection.
http://www.thefoamfactory.com/blog/i...t-and-firmness
http://www.thefoamfactory.com/seatcu...foamtypes.html
A third element may be the support structure in your gaucho. Some designs use springs (rather than solid deck/platforms) which can become stretched, broken, or need additional cross ties/springs to support larger weights.
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07-31-2016, 08:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,632
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Obviously 2 cushions one back and one sitting hinged together. Each being one continuous cushion, i.e not divided to appear like 4 cushions. Velcro sewn onto the back of the cushions and applied to the bottom and rear supports can keep it from sliding around. I used regular supportive upholstery foam (can't remember the exact weight)for the bottom 3" and then had 3" of 40# memory foam for sleep support and comfort.
Leather is nice but doesn't breathe so it can make for a clammy hot sleep surface. Consider a nice upholstery fabric. Since its zipped on you can pull it off and hand wash in a tub once or twice a year. You can use black outdoor nylon fabric for the non visible bottom and back and end pieces to keep cost in check for nice fabric, and provide a higher wear resistance where the cushions will rub on the hard surfaces.
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08-01-2016, 03:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1981 27' Excella II
Clovis
, California
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 28
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Thank you very much for some great advice.
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08-02-2016, 11:57 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1977 28' Argosy 28
Mission Viejo
, California
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 79
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I'm not sure if your gaucho is the same as my 77 Argosy 28 motorhome, but you can read about my easy conversion to a comfortable gaucho/full size bed here: 1977 Argosy 28 MH front gaucho now converts to comfy double bed http://www.airforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153582
I am very happy with my conversion uses a full size foam mattress (from Amazon) that included a 2" memory foam top. I used a faux sheep skin fabric for the mattress for comfort and to match my driving/passenger seat covers.
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08-02-2016, 04:37 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
SW
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 63
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Before you commit to the idea that money is not an issue, talk to a few upholstery shops if you have not done so already. You might be shocked at how crazy expensive good foam, fabric, and labor will be. We had a few cushions for our Airstream redone and the price was shocking. One lesson: I wish we would have gotten firmer, higher quality foam in addition to getting new covers. While it seems expensive, the lower grade foam is like throwing your money away if you plan to use the trailer a lot as it just doesn't last. Memory foam would be another good consideration for a sleeping surface.
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08-02-2016, 05:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 29' Ambassador
grants pass
, Oregon
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 262
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I found "cushionsxpress" on Amazon,To do a set of dinette cushions.I would NOT recommend using them.It took 6 weeks and they showed up in the wrong color !.Plus the quality is terrible.And customer service is soo bad.....
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08-02-2016, 07:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Manitou Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 15
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Where you and your trailer meet.
IMO, your gaucho is one of the most important ,yet sometimes overlooked item in your rig. Its variable, but some of us spend a good bit of time sitting and thinking, And sometimes just sitting. (Couldn't resist!) Fhen there's the sleep thing, Hopefully we all spend lots of time in peaceful repose. I believe the dollars invested in new medium density foam, 4" thick at least, under the most comfortable and durable fabric you can find, are dollars well spent. Leave the color and pattern choices to the ladies, gentlemen. When I fold my 1 1/2 inch memory into thirds length-wise, it fits behind the back cushion. A set of high-thread-count linens, and its as good as it gets. ( Be sure to buy 2 sets of linens) Snooze on!! Don, Melody, Rocky and Phoebe '72 Argosy 20, '06 Tacoma
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