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Old 04-20-2020, 10:03 AM   #21
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You may find it more helpful to envision your use for that space. For instance, do you need workspace for laptops, or more for lounging, more for sleeping, more for dining, or something versatile and multi-use? Which is most important?

I have always found it helpful to search the net for inspiration and ideas. For instance, here are a few pics of what others have done in that space, some are a bit more outside the box than others and show what can be done with some imagination.





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Old 06-03-2020, 11:03 AM   #22
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DrJJL here regarding the 1989. IMHO no good design came out of the 80’s (but a beautiful gal was born in ‘88 but I’m biased on that!).

We have a 1985, we are second owner and we are a software engineer and a nuclear medicine doctor: no construction experience whatsoever.

We started the do-over last spring and stopped in the fall, now re-starting.

With the 80’s models:
There was a cardboard wall for a shower wall
All the fake oak and antique white contact paper were self-peeling
The T molding was breaking
Most of the ABS plastic parts were cracking or were going to crack
The fresh water tank sprung a leak
The AC bit the dust
The carpet and accordion doors were NASTY smelling
The twin bunks were uncomfortable and too small for 66” adults
The gaucho was both uncomfortable to sit on and to sleep on

My advise at this point:
If you have the time, it mostly can be done DIY.
Save your parts. Label them.
Upon removal check you floors. They are integral to the structure. If major repairs on subflooring is beyond you then contract this out.
Replace tanks and plumbing as needed; go with PEX and diy that part.
Of course test electrical
Try to save end-caps; repair-in-place (don’t remove if they are salvageable) (this is the only original ABS I saved.)
Buy a fiberglass tub base

Try to keep the U channel that holds the bulkheads in place until you come up with your space plan; that way they won’t get bent or lost.

Plan to keep or replace appliances and tanks in their original position replace water heater if necessary; service furnace. Keep original range: don’t get rid of it at the onset; store in a shed or the garage.

We went with lift-up rear bed to replace twins, sold gaucho and built in a conversation sectional with rounded corner sections; but then we didn’t need extra sleeping surfaces up front.

We replaced all bulkheads with Baltic birch plywood with laminate faces (lumber supplier did the lamination and we used original panels as template)

We only had to move one U channel to move the “cabinet for my long formal gowns” up front to make a cupboard)

We replaced oak doors with laminated doors from Lindsay Doors of So Cal. Sleeker look. Antique White.

We stick built vanity and galley frames then using original aluminum as face frames

Replacing yellowed tambour in end-caps with spray-painted cuts of bamboo rug to match rose gold trim.

Using click wood-look flooring.

Replacing galley countertop with solid surface and composite sink (hence needing the stronger frame)

Replacing 80’s Magic Chef with 70’s stainless Magic Chef range (keeping the original for parts)

Got rid of spice cabinet behind the stove

Put in a slide-out where front accordion door was next to the vent stack

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Talk about use and design to fit your needs: it’s YOUR trailer you can do what you want.
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Old 06-17-2021, 01:19 PM   #23
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DrJJ here again. Now our adult children have agreed to camp with us. We sold the U shaped dinette and now are considering facing jackknife sofas with the longer one opposite the door side.

What we have discovered is that the jackknife sofas (buying used and completely disassembling them) have sinuous springs for the seat but not for the seat-back.

We tried to add springs but they snap when we try to bend them to insert into holes we drilled into the steel tube frame.

Two ideas at this point: buy four used sets and switch the backrest out to another seat that already has the springs formed and inserted or

Ikea hack attaching LONGREN frames with attached birch slats to the jackknife frame then upholster over.

Any thoughts out there?
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Old 07-05-2021, 02:49 PM   #24
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drjj here again. Now our adult children have agreed to camp with us. We sold the u shaped dinette and now are considering facing jackknife sofas with the longer one opposite the door side.

What we have discovered is that the jackknife sofas (buying used and completely disassembling them) have sinuous springs for the seat but not for the seat-back.

We tried to add springs but they snap when we try to bend them to insert into holes we drilled into the steel tube frame.

Two ideas at this point: Buy four used sets and switch the backrest out to another seat that already has the springs formed and inserted or

ikea hack attaching longren frames with attached birch slats to the jackknife frame then upholster over.

Any thoughts out there?


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