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Old 11-23-2021, 02:23 PM   #1
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The Oregon Trail- Historic Sites: Westport, MO to Oregon City, OR

I resisted posting for some time. But rearranging my book shelves... this could find some interest among Historic Airstream Boondockers of the 21st Century.

It was 2006/2007 I was in Independence, Missouri and thought about the Oregon Trail. I had no references, no maps... only another 'wild thought'. Do the 1,709 miles to the Oregon coast via... the Oregon Trail and explore some of the Alternate Routes that I have camped in western Wyoming.

There are Maps of the Oregon Trail on modern maps with roads and highways, also noting these Historic locations. I will try to find my examples, later.

I posted on the Airforums in 2006 or 2007 to find if anyone was interested. Nobody. That Thread probably still exists. I did not look.

Some on the 2016 Wyoming Adventure from the Wyoming/Idaho border west towards Pinedale, Wyoming has lots of alternate, confusing cutoffs and short cuts. Many of the roads are still dirt, but in better shape than when wagons traveled though the area.

These are some books I have added to my Library since 2006. The author Aubrey L. Haines also wrote the Historic Resource Study- Historic Sites Along the Oregon Trail of 1973. The book was printed in 1981. Prices run from $3 a copy and up. I found 49 copies for sale up to $68. Buy one under $10. It is not rare.

This book will get you from Independence / Westport, Missouri as it was the starting point, although people found all kinds of places to start, turn back, go around, change the route when a better short cut was found... etc..

You have a tow vehicle and an Airstream. Just perfect. You will pull off the paved road to stop at the Historic Sites for most. Wyoming... you can walk some of the original route that are marked... I will post some photos later.

Western Nebraska and all of Wyoming are the BEST Part with many historic sites available to visit and Boondock.

It also does not happen to have a library of Geology, Paleontology, Prospecting and History references at home!
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Old 11-23-2021, 02:40 PM   #2
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Some photographs of west central Wyoming portion in the Oregon Buttes, Wyoming area.

Inquire at Nebraska, Wyoming, Idaho and Oregon travel offices. They will have maps to send to you... or you find them when you stop at a Historic Site... like the Wagon Ruts in Wyoming.
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Old 11-23-2021, 02:53 PM   #3
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Wyoming has lots of pull outs for you

Wagon Ruts and Register Cliff... Boondock there for a night?

Take Detours for the Indian Forts, find the old 1867 Union Pacific railroad grade that was pulled out around 1890 and made... straight and safer. In the 1860's the passengers tossed bottles, broken plates, rifle cartridges and empty cans out the window... and you will know you are near the original track. Just like a modern highway.

Visit the Black Hills from western Nebraska as a pleasant detour... camp in some of the scattered National Forest sites if you look... Fort Robinson, Nebraska an 1870's Fort and great RV Park in western Nebraska. Use it as a Base Camp into the Black Hills to Hot Springs and all the National Monuments. Yep... you cannot make this stuff up, but few will even consider doing it. Makes more space for... YOU.

Just act like you are doing the Oregon Trail but find excuses to go to Hot Springs, South Dakota, Deadwood... Sturgis not during the big Rally. I could spend a month doodling around like my photographs.

Find a Route... and then ignore it when you see something to take you somewhere else for a day or two.

You use the Map as a reference. The rest... make it up. We do. You may even end up in Oregon. We got as far as the Idaho / Oregon border Boondocking and just having no plans or schedule to keep. Imagine that....

You have a portable apartment. Finding pullouts for the day are common in the West. Finding people brave enough to try it... few and far between.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:34 PM   #4
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Some FREE Examples of Maps and Things to Do... or Not

You may use a hand held gizmo with maps... great. We carry these brochures and pick most up free. Often western restaurants offer a hundred colorful brochures, maps and coupons... FREE to all of you live ones stopping in for a meal.

I use some for book marks as they are intended to be used as a bookmark.

Very few trailer owners want to take a vacation and NOT know what to expect. Why is that such a problem? I do not know what to expect when we are actually going there!

Detours... there's a muddy road ahead, so turn around and find another.

Nancy is detailed orientated. I am like a 'tornado hitting a trailer park' (the Yellowstone series with Beth saying "I'm the Tornado and you are the Trailer Park". I see something interesting... off we go. She will write the road number and take down the mileage... and we check an area out.

You get good at this. Even if you are a nervous type... you will not be when you return home. Really... This becomes an obsession to find that next great Boondocking Spot for absolutely FREE... just the $ to get there, and you are there anyways... why not?

Planning a Trip out West? Well... you know West is where the Sun sets. You are half way to planning a trip. Maybe a Bad Trip... but better than last year's... yawner.

Hays, Kansas or Central Nebraska is the BEGINNING of the Wild West... sort of.

Wyoming Travel Centers have lots of stuff to hand out. Each has a beautiful sticker for free that you can stick onto your Propane Tank cover. Each town. Or not... but pick them up if you want. I liked them. The buyer of our 2006 Safari loved them... and free to them, as well.

Once you get above 4,000 feet elevation... the wind 'pops' if you put the window down. A totally different sound. Try it... I should know. Western Kansas and Eastern Colorado are a good place to discover this. It is drier thinner air... Your potato chip bag will EXPLODE if you purchased in Kansas City and go up Pike's Peak at 14,000+ feet. Try it... you will not like it. Makes a mess. Coffee bags will vent, also. Great smell as well.

Plan your vacation a day before you... leave. Like us. If we cross paths. One of us is lost...

Most likely us... but we do it on purpose. Enjoy your vacation and do not overplan Boondocking. A roadside pullout is great... if you need to spend the evening. We parked next to a dry water tank with a Hereford Cow that died and dried up... I will add the photo if someone asks. Otherwise... the cow is still laying where it died. Nevada is not know for its lakes and water.

Some if not the majority of Trailer Owners do not find these kinds of trip entertaining. We do... but discovered that dust, rain, fog, snow, sleet, mud, cow patties and frost can come in August at elevation. Be a Free Spirit and just try it once. Bring a camera. You will not starve. Run out of water. Get eaten by a Brown Bear or a Badger or a Grizzley... if you do not fry BACON. The carnivore attractor.

Wait a day and the Climate at Elevation changes. Temperature readings are often for town... in the valley. You may be at 10,000 feet, potato chips all over the trailer interior and the rain is steady. By morning... the Sun is UP and you ate the potato chips. You were starving...

I am fairly normal. I am an independent thinker... if at all. Just relax, sit back if the area you find yourself is absent of anything living, other than yourselves and a hundred head of man Angus livestock.

OK... your turn. I have had my Fun... you now can present yours.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:55 PM   #5
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Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road? Nope... a Hereford Cow

We see plenty of Deer and Elk that have been hit by vehicles. Western States will have warning signs for drivers to keep alert. They should, also in the Buffalo, NY area, as my Father in Law met a deer with his new automobile at night. I did not say one word... smart decision for me for that conversation.

Often they are not alert. The wild life, that is. The driver is 'day dreaming', but the Sun set three hours ago. That is another story.

Deer, Elk or Moose wait alongside in the trees or in the tall grass / brush to see WHAT you are doing. When you get close at 65mph... they make their move to cross the road. You are the Human Bean... you should know that. OK? The nicer the trailer... the bigger the problem for you... as an Elk will jump when you hit one, slide over the roof into your Airstream LOGO. Worried about small dings in your Rock Guard? Get over it... there are bigger things out there to think about.

Glowing Eyes alongside the road, highway or ditch... is something to slow down for. They are connected to something larger than eye balls. You will have antlers and testicles scattered onto your Airstream real soon... Be weary. Like US. We have brakes and a gas peddle... they don't.

Cattle have horns. They do not shed. They do not jump, either. You hit a stray and you will wish you stayed home... so be careful. Cattle will get loose, like sheep, lamas, goats... and other furry beasts that wander around on the Highways out West.

This was a Nevada Desert location that a stray Hereford wandered over to find water... which there was none. I looked. We were not thirsty...

But found this great free Boondocking parking lot at Hotel Nevada... Whaaa Hooo. And wife thought it was a great spot, ate at the Casino and probably had to borrow money for gasoline from a stranger... Gambling is not smart unless you can afford to WIN often. Unlike us.

I added a Nevada Pony Express stop (ruins) as an example of what you can camp next to in nowhere. They protect it with a fence. Makes sense to someone. Not me, but then again I am taking the photo of a ruin and telling you to find it yourself. Do not expect to send a letter... you missed the last pony going through.
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:38 PM   #6
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I'm intrigued by this idea. Having grown up in Oregon, I lived close to the Oregon Trail at a couple of different points in my life.

When I was in first and second grade, I lived in Vale, Oregon, and my dad pulled over to the side of the road and pointed out to my mom and us kids that the Oregon Trail was just a few feet beside the highway. It was parallel ruts about two feet deep, evidently churned through the mud on a really soggy day.

Twenty years ago we lived in Gresham and my kids' elementary school was across the street from a historical marker and a wooden cross that marked the grave of a child who died on the Oregon Trail, only 15-20 miles from the end of the trail in Oregon City. Evidently, I-84 was laid down right on top of the Oregon Trail, but it had been paved over decades before by unsympathetic people. (I remember all too well that most older folks in Oregon when I was a kid had a positive revulsion to anything old, and looked at everything new as absolutely and incontrovertibly better than the past. Cultural difference.)

Anyway, I think I might go exploring the Oregon Trail, or what's left of it, towing my own modern-day Conestoga like you did, Ray. Thanks for the idea.

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P.S.--My ancestors have lived in Oregon since it was the Oregon Territory. The irony is that none of them came by wagon train... they all came by sea. One family sailed directly from Ireland to Gray's Harbor, Washington, then settled in a riverside town called Skamokawa that could only be reached by boat. Another ancestor was a shipwrecked British sailor. The coast of the Oregon Territory was an unforgiving lee shore that claimed many ships.
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If you want to learn about the Oregon Trail and be entertained while doing so read Rinker Buck's great book:
https://www.amazon.com/Oregon-Trail-...7763343&sr=8-3


Just got off the WBCCI Oregon Trail Caravan. A wonderful way to see ruts and much more. If you can get away for a month I highly recommend this caravan. All campsites, most museums, and many meals are prepaid. Also some bonuses others would never experience - like a police escort through Vale, Oregon and a tour to the nearby ruts in a bus supplied by the city and lead by the city's mayor. Or museums otherwise closed due to Covid 19 opening up for us..... Lots to see and do, and this was a great way to do it.
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Read Buck's book on recommendation from a friend prior to our trip to the Salem, Oregon International. Bought another e-book with better guide instructions while on the road. Saw a lot of the sites - Register Cliff, the Ruts, and others we sought out on the way home. The WBCCI Caravan might be an attractive option - not sure I'm up to the unplanned itinerary, yet.....
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Independence Rock in central Wyoming is a great Oregon Trail landmark and well worth the visit. Easy foot trail around it from which you can read the carvings left by the travelers. You can also climb up to the top.
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