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07-26-2016, 11:52 PM
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gandttimes
It is good reading but it is only one view. And that is from the retailer. The thing I like and respect about Bob Shearer is that he totally lives off the grid and probably has more real experience about solar than a retailer who is only trying to sell.
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I don't really want to get in to a pissing contest with you about 'Angry Bob' and his obvious biases.
I'll simply remind you that Greg Holder, founder of AM Solar virtually started the RV solar field almost 30 years ago and has been living with solar for the same amount of time. As far as experience, when 'Angry Bob' has passed several thousand RV solar installations, as AM Solar has, you can start to talk to me about 'experience'!!
They are not simply a reseller, but also a solar panel manufacturer and designer and are responsible for bringing the GS-100 high efficiency compact 100 watt solar panel to market thru Grape Solar along with the first solar charge controller (Heliotrope) that was specifically designed for RV use.
DON'T MAKE 'FACTUAL' STATEMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE OR ENTITIES THAT YOU HAVE LITTLE TO NO FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT!!! 
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lewster
Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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07-27-2016, 01:51 AM
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Rivet Master 
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
I don't really want to get in to a pissing contest with you about 'Angry Bob' and his obvious biases.
I'll simply remind you that Greg Holder, founder of AM Solar virtually started the RV solar field almost 30 years ago and has been living with solar for the same amount of time. As far as experience, when 'Angry Bob' has passed several thousand RV solar installations, as AM Solar has, you can start to talk to me about 'experience'!!
They are not simply a reseller, but also a solar panel manufacturer and designer and are responsible for bringing the GS-100 high efficiency compact 100 watt solar panel to market thru Grape Solar along with the first solar charge controller (Heliotrope) that was specifically designed for RV use.
DON'T MAKE 'FACTUAL' STATEMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE OR ENTITIES THAT YOU HAVE LITTLE TO NO FACTUAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT!!!  
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Ditto!
George
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07-27-2016, 06:03 AM
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Rivet Master 
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 585
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We have 200 W (Zamp) on our FC 23D and that is sufficient for our boondocking purposes. Bay Area Airstream installed it. I like the Zamp sheets and didn't want to piece together a bulkier system.
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07-30-2016, 03:09 PM
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New Member
2013 27' FB International
Bozeman
, Montana
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1
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I got a 15k quote from precision rv!! Lol
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07-30-2016, 04:04 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2013 30' Classic
Kent
, Washington
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 366
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GratefulDad
I got a 15k quote from precision rv!! Lol
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Wow!
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Yolanda (and Phil)
2013 30' Classic Limited
2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD
ProPride 3P Trailer Sway Control Hitch
WBCCI #7878
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07-30-2016, 05:02 PM
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Rivet Master 
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 745
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You could DIY a quality 400 W system for your Classic, like I did for mine, for less than $1500. You'll need some basic mechanical and electrical skills but it's not that difficult. It was made even easier since I was able to reuse the solar pre-wiring and CAT5 cable.
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Al, K6IV
2015 30' Classic, "Chez Nu"
2014 RAM 2500 w/Cummins Diesel
ProPride Hitch, 400 W Solar
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07-30-2016, 06:42 PM
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Rich and Kat
2017 30' Classic
Alexandria
Alexandria
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alano
You could DIY a quality 400 W system for your Classic, like I did for mine, for less than $1500. You'll need some basic mechanical and electrical skills but it's not that difficult. It was made even easier since I was able to reuse the solar pre-wiring and CAT5 cable.
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ALANO, can you please provide more details, and if inappropriate to post here, PM me? I thought I just read that the standard AS 10GA pre-wiring was not enough capacity to even add a third 80W panel. Or do I have this wrong?
Thanks,
Rich
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Rich
2017 Classic 30', ProPride 3P Hitch, 2016 RAM 3500 Laramie Crew Cab 4x4 SRW w/ 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel and Retrax Pro MX Tonneau Cover
KB2ZMF Save
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07-31-2016, 12:21 AM
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Rivet Master 
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 745
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The goal is to keep the voltage losses due to the pre-wiring to less than 3%. If your solar charger can handle a higher input voltage you can then stack identical panels in series. When you do this the output voltage of your solar array is doubled, the voltage drop due to the cable remains constant, and the voltage loss due to the pre-wiring is cut in half. To give you an example, I have (4) 100 W panels connected in a series/parallel configuration. Even with the 10 AWG solar pre-wiring in my 30' classic the voltage loss due to the pre-wiring is about 2%. I'm using a Blue Sky 3024 MPPT controller. You're configuration may differ but as long as you use a MPPT controller rated for series connected panels you can safely and efficiently reuse the existing solar pre-wiring.
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Al, K6IV
2015 30' Classic, "Chez Nu"
2014 RAM 2500 w/Cummins Diesel
ProPride Hitch, 400 W Solar
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09-01-2016, 12:36 PM
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Rivet Master 
2017 25' International
2022 20' Basecamp
1968 17' Caravel
2022 Interstate 24GL
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 919
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I've used AM Solar for a full install. Great reason for a trip to Oregon.
Lew (Lewster) would also be a great choice.
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2017 Airstream International Serenity 25FB
2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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09-01-2016, 01:29 PM
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Free Range Human
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Haines
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Hello
I am thinking if getting a solar system and the Bay Area dealer sells the Zamp Solar System.
For 100 watt system it costs 1,650.
For 200 watt system it costs 2,950.
This seems high, anyone have experience on this system or know if a private installer in Bay Area calif.??
Thanks
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Oops, I thought this was a new thread...
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09-01-2016, 03:33 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"

2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Hello
I am thinking if getting a solar system and the Bay Area dealer sells the Zamp Solar System.
For 100 watt system it costs 1,650.
For 200 watt system it costs 2,950.
This seems high, anyone have experience on this system or know if a private installer in Bay Area calif.??
Thanks
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They are probably using those high-end Lithuanian batteries, 400pots of wower.
Bob
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09-01-2016, 04:27 PM
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,515
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Solar question Zamp system
Oh yah! Be real careful of them 'Fer'ners'. 😳😁
PS: that's a lot of pots!!!!!!!
Lew Farber
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lewster
Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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09-02-2016, 06:05 PM
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Rivet Master 
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,808
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Should get JUST the panel for around ONE $ per watt. 180 watt $180 about.
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Live every day as if it is your last one and one day your going to be right.
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09-10-2017, 09:45 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 17
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Hello Lewster, I see on your profile you spent time in Naples, Fla...I hope you aren't there now but if you are, Best wishes to you and yours and hope you're safe and doing well.
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