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Old 06-13-2018, 01:12 AM   #41
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Awesome thread. I primarily boondock 90% of the time. I have solar and only have to be a water miser. I live in Idaho and have a fully renovated 1975 Sovereign that is 31í at tip of tongue to rear bumper and have had her in spots most would think impossible. As Mr. Ray stated the 23-25 foot Airstreamís are best for western boondocking especially in the mountains. I have had my long, long trailer in spots that would boggle this community and I have been white knuckle and sweaty palms a few times. I guess my point is donít let the road less traveled stop one from taking the turn off. Itís worth the experience and the view.
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sharick5... put the eye in the potato for "I"daho, for me please. We have a niece who wanted an Idaho Potato tee shirt... Next thing we discover... She may be living their now with her... Potato Head boyfriend. She loves Idaho and probably will be staying.

We found a decent Boondocking spot SE of Salmon, Idaho last year. We had to find a bridge to cross the river and headed towards the mountains outside town.

Ended up at a Gold Placer Claim. Piles of boulders and gravel were the first indication, something was being placer mined. Shortly after a gentleman from one of the homes down by the river arrived, a bit older than myself, which was a surprise such people became Old in Idaho, was curious what we were doing. I thought Florida or Nevada is where they all go to.

I explained that I had no clue how the county road ended up at a Gold Placer Mining District. I do not think he knew, as well. We had a good chat about the Tire Sales business owner in town was leasing some ground up the road further. When he has time, tries to recover some gold nuggets.

This is an example to those wondering what it is like to just show up somewhere and the interesting things that can happen... to you. So when you are in the Salmon, Idaho area... look for Raymond C. He is a nice fellow, and when you find a flat spot to camp... his daughter will call him and the two of you can visit.
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:25 PM   #43
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Beautiful pictures Ray. Make sure you post them in the campsite pics. thread, with the description ''somewhere in Montana'', Utah, Coolerado etc. They will be the envy of the thread. Or start a ''Boondocker pictures'' thread to document the boondocker lifestyle.
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Old 06-20-2018, 04:47 PM   #44
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Chaco Culture National Historical Park, New Mexico

Second, only to Mesa Verde National Park in Colorado... is Chaco Canyon, the less traveled wonder in the Pueblo World and ours, as well. Next in my book of places not to miss or avoid- Bandelier National Monument, New Mexico. Well, then Cortez isn't too bad, as well. .... and then. You get the idea. Four Corners is a vacation, but check the seasonal weather highs and lows... before you plan to go.

At Chaco you are on your own and can examine the ruins close up. Often a volunteer historian will give a late afternoon, early evening talk. It is just as amazing as Mesa Verde, but getting there can loosen your dental fillings... and loosen screws and bolts in your Airstream.

This was the 'End of the World' at the time Chaco was inhabited. After the wash board road to get there... you will think it, as well. But worth it.

Well worth every hardship and wash board... bump in the last five miles to arrive. We traveled from the north entrance and did the south entrance. Both are like wearing your shoes on either foot... and they will fit once you arrive.

These photographs are from May 2008 in our 23 foot Safari. A section of RV sites were being renovated at the time, so more may be available by contacting the Park directly. We came, of course, without reservations if any were accepted at that time and fresh water was available next to the main park building.

Expect to stay at least two days. The entire Four Corners area is full of ruins to visit.

Although... avoid Canyon de Chelly National Monument as you will be very disappointed that there is very little there to see or do, unless you have nothing better to do. ...and I am big on Archaeology and American Indians, just not this place.
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I'm enjoying this thread, thinking about places we've been and places we still have to go (once we get our '87 23' Sovereign put back together.

We were surprised by and so enjoyed Canyon de Chelly! Of course that was a few decades ago but we had one of those "perfect moments" that you sometimes get in travel. We walked down the hill and on the way saw a woman with her herd of sheep, then we walked through the sand toward White House, no one else around, no sounds other than birds or maybe sheep. And then we saw the ruin, with no interference from tour guides or other visitors, as if we were discovering it ourselves. I have pictures somewhere but they don't do the moment justice, it was one of those fleeting moments of perfection.

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Taylor Reservoir, Colorado June 14, 2016

Those who like to get their Summers started early, living at lower elevations, be aware that States with Mountains... can still be snow packed in June and July.

Warm days, cool to cold evenings, even during mid-June.

These are not artificial snow drifts on Cottonwood Pass. Everyone in the photograph were prepared with Rocky Mountain camping attire. When out in the mountains, prepare for hot, warm, cool and cold on the... same day. No services. No problem. Although surprises are nearby that you can find out on your own.

Yes, we did have a minor, snow ball skirmish.

Here are some photographs and mountains in the distance to the west, close to Crested Butte, Colorado. Just be prepared.

If you want to know how to find Taylor Reservoir... pull out a map. You cannot miss it as this place is at the End of the Road for Lost Souls. Space is limited to possibly 1,000 trailers. Maybe less than ten will ever try to actually get there.
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Beautiful pictures, but in deference to another stream here. How dare you deface a snowbank? (Wink)
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:03 AM   #48
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Beautiful pictures, but in deference to another stream here. How dare you deface a snowbank? (Wink)
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You are one sharp... tagger. With all the stink about Anderson Hitch rock mutilations... things can get out of hand very quick when the Vigilantes gather.

Those were Mountain Pebbles in the graphics. No metal involved.

Has anyone seen the columns made from balancing rocks along the side of the road? I am sure there is some group looking for those perps, as well. At ten years old... they should know better. Yeah, right. Enjoy your youth and build them taller.

I have even taken flat disc pebbles off the gravel beaches at the Flathead Lake in Montana... and... skipped them across on the water as a kid. Getting six to twelve skips were signs of a true Olympian Lake Pebble Skipper. An OLPS. I expect 90% of Forum Members have no clue what I am talking about. OK... 89%.

Just to avoid being Tarred and Feathered on a pole... I will stop.

I took snow from a drift on Public Land and... made a Snowman, more than once. Gasp!
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:09 PM   #49
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I took snow from a drift on Public Land and... made a Snowman, more than once. Gasp!
I think you'r safe on that count. Back in 2016 the National Park Service had carved a 100th anniversary message into the snowbank at the Alpine Visitor Center parking lot in Rocky Mountain National Park.
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You are one sharp... tagger. With all the stink about Anderson Hitch rock mutilations... things can get out of hand very quick when the Vigilantes gather.

Those were Mountain Pebbles in the graphics. No metal involved.

Has anyone seen the columns made from balancing rocks along the side of the road? I am sure there is some group looking for those perps, as well. At ten years old... they should know better. Yeah, right. Enjoy your youth and build them taller.

I have even taken flat disc pebbles off the gravel beaches at the Flathead Lake in Montana... and... skipped them across on the water as a kid. Getting six to twelve skips were signs of a true Olympian Lake Pebble Skipper. An OLPS. I expect 90% of Forum Members have no clue what I am talking about. OK... 89%.

Just to avoid being Tarred and Feathered on a pole... I will stop.

I took snow from a drift on Public Land and... made a Snowman, more than once. Gasp!
No comment as to my involvement in the above mentioned fun activities.

Except of course the rock pile tipping, building maybe.
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:20 PM   #51
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Do you really think your one of only a few people who know what skipping rocks is. Just checking as I'm not sure if that was tongue in cheek.

This is a very broad, often middle-aged (yes middle-aged is rather ambiguous), fairly experienced, well-traveled, well-read group here on the forums. Some of whom have actually camped before.

Sometimes I just can't quite tell when you are joking or being serious.
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I have tried to post Airforum Emoji expressions on comments that are intended to contain humor, but lost in the ethane of reason, otherwise. Posts 47, 49 and 50 did catch the ball and carried it further.

There are moments, as this, when one just wants to call it quits and move on. But, it is such a small number of individuals who mistake humor as insulting or criticism of one thing or another, you have to let it pass.

When I take breaks during the day from my 'usual business', I am also well versed in Casino Craps, Antique Gaming Equipment, Jukeboxes, Geology to Paleontology and participate in these discussions, as well.

And... also experienced plenty with our Airstream Boondocking, that it may save some owners some grief in the future.

I have had an interesting life and have no problem sharing my experiences.
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Sorry you received that message. I enjoy your posts, and follow this thread whenever it’s been added to. Please don’t stop. I’ve skipped thousands of rocks, and sure didn’t take offense to your comments. It’s up to us to teach the next few generations the art of rock skipping. As with almost anything my two brothers and I did, it immediately became a competition. Who had the most skips..
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Maybe the "NEXT" generation will teach us about cell phone skipping. Whatever that may be. They are thin and flat. I'll bet they will skip nicely but a bit $$$$ for most of us.

Rocks are a lot more affordable.
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Half the joy was selecting the right stone, the smoothness, right heft, how it fit in your hand, the correct aerodynamics, then there was the challenge of getting the most skips out of the one you competitor picked for you; there is the real challenge of being able to find skipping side, being able to throw it so that side hit the water with out tumbling.
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Indeed there are people unfamiliar with the concept of skipping rocks. I was stationed in Iceland for a couple of years while I was in the Air Force. One weekend I was out hiking with a bunch of Icelandic friends. We walked by a little glacial pond, and I casually picked up a nice flat rock and skipped it across the lake. The Icelanders were astounded. They had never seen such a thing. We spent the next hour filling the lake with rocks, some skipped, others, not so much. It was a lot of fun.
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Skipping rocks has been humorously referred to as an attempt by youngsters, especially boys, to fill up any body of water with lots of rocks. My dad was a master of the sport!
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I will tell you why 'skipping rocks' in my youth had future advantages.

When I played baseball at 11 years old, skipping rocks needed to be thrown 'side arm'. This gave me a great fast ball, and side arm pitching, which with a right arm pitch and right handed batters... was a great advantage.

So small things done to pass time away as a youth do have a purpose. At the time it meant nothing. Later, three years of playing baseball in Europe... it all came together.
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Maybe the "NEXT" generation will teach us about cell phone skipping. Whatever that may be. They are thin and flat. I'll bet they will skip nicely but a bit $$$$ for most of us.

Rocks are a lot more affordable.
My absolute favorite beer commercial is the one where the guy on a lovely tropical vacation is reaching for his beer, and the cell phone on the table starts buzzing. He picks it up, notes that it's his work number calling, throws it, and gets at least 4 skips out of it across the lovely tropical lagoon...then resumes enjoying his beer. Makes perfect sense to me!

Such a tempting scene...especially when you are retired, and get an urgent call from one of your former customers...while vacationing at Disney World with DW, celebrating 42 years of marriage...
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My absolute favorite beer commercial is the one where the guy on a lovely tropical vacation is reaching for his beer, and the cell phone on the table starts buzzing. He picks it up, notes that it's his work number calling, throws it, and gets at least 4 skips out of it across the lovely tropical lagoon...then resumes enjoying his beer. Makes perfect sense to me!

Such a tempting scene...especially when you are retired, and get an urgent call from one of your former customers...while vacationing at Disney World with DW, celebrating 42 years of marriage...
Hey, that was a Corona Beer commercial. And I was there when we filmed it in Mexico! (In my previous life, I was an ad agency creative.)
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Cool. How many takes did it get to get the skips just right?

I didn't mention the brand because I felt it was not necessary in order to tell the best part of the story--I suspect MANY will recognize the commercial...
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