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Old 03-27-2023, 05:15 PM   #1
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Long Term Boondocking... 30,000 years USA

The American Native American did it for thousands of years. Where they could grow crops, the villages were stationary.

Plains Indians moved seasonally. Following the Seasons and the game, Bison, Deer, Antelope, etc.. Moved with the game and seasons. Often using dogs and human muscle. Horses were very late in their history.

Today... after thousands of years tossing their trash at Pueblos, Prairie Campsites of the Central North American "Great American Desert" and the Coasts with boating, plenty of water, game, fish and... left Stone Artifacts as evidence.

Even the Pueblo Indians I consider Off the Grid Boondockers. They had Broken Pottery Trash Heaps (Chaco Canyon) and the Pit Houses used during the warm months and hunting season would break apart broken pottery and toss it around the campsite.

Today... this Trash is protected as it is RARE and Valuable to find. Fields in the Midwest and East are full of Off the Grid Boondocking Indian sites. Your home may be sitting on top of a campsite and the soil is blank and grows vegetables that are better than 'store bought'.

We can find an Artifact and have a good idea of how old it is. Styles changed with time and game. North America was already 'discovered' before Columbus. Chris Columbus was about 29,700+ years too late.

Anyone who says you "HAVE TO HAVE" anything... is a City Wuss: "Fail to do or complete something as a result of fear or lack of confidence". Look up Wuss and get all kinds of nouns and adjectives.

I spent several weeks in NW Nebraska collecting Fossil Vertebrates in the Badlands in a 1956 VW Bug and pup tent. Everything I needed was hauled easily. When water was needed... a Rancher was happy to offer excellent well water from their pump.

Used simple food as sandwiches, eating Tuna from a can (love Tuna), Corn in a can and other simple items. If I ran out of supplies, I could drive into Crawford, Nebraska... and replenish. Or to the Black Hills of South Dakota for some casual tent camping. I was operating on a very tight budget when working for $1.15 an hour, part time. Gasoline as the Number One... need. I did not gain any weight...

Today... French Press Coffee is excellent. Just do not drop it as the glass breaks easily... ends the morning coffee routine.

Hikers in the East travel the Appalachians and not inside a Trailer.

What a bunch of Wuss Off the Grid Boondockers.

Boy Scouts do better roughing it than someone in an Airstream with all of the conveniences.

Some Boondockers need to camp out with some Scouts. Scouting use to be a way for a youth to get out of the City and adapt to... nothing but empty spaces.

You want to learn some Off the Grid Boondocking lessons? Just do it. I was reading a thread about a guy spending 20 or 30 days Boondocking. It all depends on how you prepare. Early geologists lived off the Land in the mid 19th Century in the American West. They were not Wuss.

They had horses. This was before the UPRR... and Indian Guides were able to teach these guys a few things, as well.

Western Wyoming was very popular in the early 19th Century without Dump Stations, Grocery Stores or a Water Fountain. Get Buff and lets get together and... suffer.
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Old 03-28-2023, 10:19 AM   #2
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Lumbering Made 'Off the Grid' Western Boondocking Possible

The Rocky Mountain Region has a big advantage.

Public Lands. Sort of.... undeeded, unclaimed and ?.

Boondocking is easy in the central Rocky Mountain States. By the time the Railroads got their 'generous' claims to open sections of land.

The Native American Indians were able to secure their Native Lands.

Early settlers were able to claim land along creeks and rivers for ranching.

Mining companies secured property to mine or strip mining of coal... there was plenty of real estate not claimed. The leftovers are for... US.

Wide open Prairies were open for grazing, then the Sheep and Cattle 'conflicts' and fencing and... well, there is still a lot of open grasslands that are public, today.

An inexpensive DeLorme Atlas shows, with good accuracy, where these open public lands can be found. But... inliers of Private Property are also within open grasslands.

The Lumber Trade then had access to railroads and lumber mills and water and building lumber camps.

The bonus for Off the Grid Boondockers were the ROADS built BY the Lumber Companies to gain access to the lumber. If it were not for the lumber mills, there would be very few Off the Grid Boondocking access.

Some mountain access routes were built during the Depression of the 1930's CCC. These are easily spotted as the stone work is excellent and still intact. Civilian Conservation Corps roads are excellent today.
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Here's a tip for Northern California, Oregon, and Washington - from the eastern slopes of the Cascades to the coast.


There is a bunch{!} of public land available to boondock on. Some stupid amount of the area is owned and managed by public entities. 80% maybe? It's timber country. Trees are grown like corn, as crops. Modern logging needs roads. Roads mean access. Modern logging also means log landings. Log landings are flat open areas usually at the top of hills, or at least half way up the side of a mountain. They are perfect for parking an Airstream. There is usually a slash pile near by with more firewood available than you will ever burn. The chances are there is no water, sewer, electricity or cell phone or internet service. Log landings have spectacular views.


Now...the down side.



Not all land is public. The Sheriff (deputy) WILL boot you off private land. The timber companies pay for Sheriff deputies and their equipment to do just that. They may or may not be nice about it.


SCOUT THE ROAD! Do not head down a road with your trailer until you know you can get in, get out and the road is passable.
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Good info for us electrically and electronically overloaded, wanna be boondockers. Thanx!
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