Generators: two-Suitcased Honda eu2200i v Honda eu3000i

[SailorSam205]

Originally Posted by Boston Gary

But if it kicks in while you are watching TV, or using the microwave, or the fridge is on auto, will the warranty cover those (or the inverter)? I know you can be smart and not have those on but I don’t think that would be covered by the Easy Start warranty.
All being said, I will be buying and having installed.

My thought, the only issue you have if the AC kicks in while other stuff is running - you overload the gen capacity and it drops out. Same issue without an Easy Start. You are over thinking this. The Easy Start manages current going into the AC, nothing else. If there is enough capacity in the gen for what is running, it keeps supplying power.

[gypsydad]

But really, take a good look at the new Champion 2500 Dual Fuel on sale for $650 at Camping World! Brother in law purchased...said quiet as the Honda at 53db on high, and 49db eco mode...plus only 39lbs! If I did not already have my new Honda Genconnex, I would get this one for sure!

https://www.campingworld.com/champio...ble-generators

[gypsydad]

I have not seen any issues with Easystart in past 5 years from anyone on the Forum, so not sure why someone would be concerned about warranty? We had our ES installed at JC last year and I was told they have not had any issues with AC's using the Easystart...nor warranty issues because of installation.

[DCPAS]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

But really, take a good look at the new Champion 2500 Dual Fuel on sale for $650 at Camping World! Brother in law purchased...said quiet as the Honda at 53db on high, and 49db eco mode...plus only 39lbs! If I did not already have my new Honda Genconnex, I would get this one for sure!

The Champion 2500 has a 79cc engine. The Honda 2200 has 121cc.

[jaybauman]

Originally Posted by Imustwander

@jaybauman I'm really interested in the Hutch Mountain tri-fuel conversion kit for my Honda 2200i. Specifically, how much propane does the generator use per hour?

I really don't know the answer to this. I didn't run the generators until my 2nd summer of camping, so the amount of propane in either tank before I started the generators is an unknown. I sold the trailer before I could run a controlled experiment in real life.

My new Classic will have propane tank monitors, so I'll have some idea of the propane demand. Until then, someone else will need to give their experience.

[jaybauman]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

Genconnex also has a DIY kit, that is much cleaner, IMHO. The Hutch Mountain guys are great to work with; almost went with their kit, but did not like the external manifold for propane. The Genconnex is integrated inside the Honda shell with just a quick disconnect port on top; I opted for the "finished product" from them with a 3 year warranty. Not sure price difference for DIY between Hutch Mountain and Genconnex, however?

The only reason I didn't go with Genconnex is I wanted to preserve the ability to run gasoline in my generators. I have yet to do so, so maybe my flexibility was unwarranted.

As for Hutch Mountain, these guys are great. I bought my conversion kits and my MicroAir Easy Starts from Hutch Mountain (they are a MicroAir distributor). Pro Tip: Hutch has a much better installation kit than does MicroAir, and Hutch includes it in the price. MicroAir charges for it. For me, Hutch also matched the "Airstream Discount" that MicroAir offers.

[ASFC25_2019]

Originally Posted by rspecialk

I am looking to boondock in a bit of comfort. I have a 50 amp service, 2016 30' classic. The posts I have reviewed have been very positive towards the honda generators. I am interested in opinions of users of both the two suitcased approach of honda eu2200i generators versus a honda eu3000i. I know I will get more capacity with two but I am wondering if it is worth having to fill both and cart too around? There is a model of eu2200i that allows a 30 amp plug in the generator which is nice. They are about the same price. Ideally, I would like to run one AC and the normal amount of appliances. We rarely use the microwave.
Thank you.

I have the EU2200. However, found a new setup that might want to try. airkrafters dot com. Has anyone installed Onan QG 2500i LP Generator under the trailer? Maybe a future upgrade for me...

[DCPAS]

Originally Posted by ASFC25_2019

I have the EU2200. However, found a new setup that might want to try. airkrafters dot com. Has anyone installed Onan QG 2500i LP Generator under the trailer? Maybe a future upgrade for me...

It's rather interesting, but I think I'd rather carry the EU2200i in the back of my truck than a spare trailer tire. Plus, I do not want a lift kit, but that's just me.

[Flathead1984]

I had the conversation to propane only. Last summer in Montana 3500’ and 95 every day. Between the propane and elevation, I could not keep it from tripping in a few seconds. I also have soft start.
Eventually, I found a way: 1 start generator and bring up to temp. 2 make sure nothing is “on” . 3 go inside the trailer and set controls to fan only. 4 after a few minutes, set to a/c. It worked. I could run TV, and led lights. No micro and frig must be set to propane.

This may not work for you. I tow with a SUV. Cannot haul gas. If I had a pu, I would go for the larger Honda. Also, I cannot lift the larger generator. When underway I carry it between the rear axils, or behind driver’s seat (fits perfectly).

I tried a Champion 4500. Worked fine, but too loud for any neighbors.

Good luck with your decision.

[ASFC25_2019]

Originally Posted by DCPAS

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do you turn off the converter? If you do turn it off running on your generator, are your 12v lights running off your batteries?

just turn the breaker off for the converter. Located under my table in FC 25RB

[ASFC25_2019]

Originally Posted by DCPAS

It's rather interesting, but I think I'd rather carry the EU2200i in the back of my truck than a spare trailer tire. Plus, I do not want a lift kit, but that's just me.

The spare tire is still under the trailer. So the spare tire is moved to another location near the rear, something like that. Ah, and it be soooo kool you can hit a button inside the trailer, and your generator starts—no messing around with cables or gas etc. Or the generator can be set to automatically turn on when the load is required, for example, when your AC turns on, or batteries need topping off. . I have my reservation too, but it is a very excellent idea. I had planned to mount the two 2200s on the receiver, but I might be open to a little more power and hardwired into the trailer with a transfer switch… It is a very cool setup. I currently do not have a lift install, but I was considering it as some of the roads we drive down have deep holes. I uploaded the picture of my mounting of the 2200 or that was the plan...

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by ASFC25_2019

The spare tire is still under the trailer. So the spare tire is moved to another location near the rear, something like that. Ah, and it be soooo kool you can hit a button inside the trailer, and your generator starts—no messing around with cables or gas etc. Or the generator can be set to automatically turn on when the load is required, for example, when your AC turns on, or batteries need topping off. . I have my reservation too, but it is a very excellent idea. I had planned to mount the two 2200s on the receiver, but I might be open to a little more power and hardwired into the trailer with a transfer switch… It is a very cool setup. I currently do not have a lift install, but I was considering it as some of the roads we drive down have deep holes. I uploaded the picture of my mounting of the 2200 or that was the plan...

Do you know your actual tongue weight on your 25'? Many are at 900-1000+ lbs. Adding another 90lbs up there is not recommended, depending on your TV. Curious to see your numbers and how you make it work if you can post your scale weight numbers and TV info?

[mefly2]

I do not think there is any currently available 2000+ watt generator that runs as quietly as the Honda Eu3000is except for possibly the Honda Eu7000is.
The 3000, however, does take two of us to load it for the season. We sold our topper equipped pick up and then sold the Eu3000is because it would not fit under a tonneau. ... bought a couple of Eu2200s to carry under the topper of our new pickup ... and / or inside of the AS. We could not add additional weight to the tongue - over 1,000# already!
The Honda Eu3000is can be remotely started with its electric starter - dw was a real fan of the electric start. I understand that there is now an interface to start it automatically as power needs vary. We had our 3000 mounted on a pull out in the bed of the truck for easy access. Likely will go back to the Eu3000is over the two 2200s... new
tv arrives Saturday.

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by Flathead1984

I had the conversation to propane only. Last summer in Montana 3500’ and 95 every day. Between the propane and elevation, I could not keep it from tripping in a few seconds. I also have soft start.
Eventually, I found a way: 1 start generator and bring up to temp. 2 make sure nothing is “on” . 3 go inside the trailer and set controls to fan only. 4 after a few minutes, set to a/c. It worked. I could run TV, and led lights. No micro and frig must be set to propane.

This may not work for you. I tow with a SUV. Cannot haul gas. If I had a pu, I would go for the larger Honda. Also, I cannot lift the larger generator. When underway I carry it between the rear axils, or behind driver’s seat (fits perfectly).

I tried a Champion 4500. Worked fine, but too loud for any neighbors.

Good luck with your decision.

Puzzling experience you mention; did you do the conversion yourself or from Genconnex? Are you using the altitude jet? I camp up there each year and have not had this issue with my 2200, except when I had the 3400 Champion Dual Fuel couple times up around Hungry Horse camping. I am at 6K feet in WY each summer...don't use all the time, but no issues when I do use.

[ricjones]

New Honda eu3200i generator. 3200 watts. Runs a 13.5K AC without Easystart plus a lot more. Hutch Mountain has coming soon on the propane conversion kit.

Dimensions: 22.5 x 12.0 x 17.8 inches
Noise: 58 dB(A) @ rated load, 54 dB(A) @1/4 load
Weight: 59.1 pounds

Compared to eu22001i:
Dimensions: 20.0" x 11.4" x 16.7"
Noise: 57 dB(A) @ rated load 48 dB(A) @ 1/4 load
Weight: 47.4 lb.

https://powerequipment.honda.com/gen...ll-new-eu3200i

My experience is with the Honda eu2200i running on propane and 13.5K AC with EasyStart. This works as long as another large amp draw is not present. So we can run the AC and some other stuff. But it will not run the AC and charge the batteries from a low state (the charger draws a bunch of amps in bulk charge mode). But seems to run the AC and almost anything else just fine.

We definitely plan on upgrading to the 3200. It will run everything and not much bigger or heavier, and gives us some extra power for altitude, running on propane, etc.

[r3z]

The two issues we ran into with the Honda 3000is which made us move to the 2200 is the weight and height. My back can’t lift that much weight on and off the truck and it did not fit under our new tonneau cover which allows us to attach our bikes on top.

[Flathead1984]

I had to use 2 of the 2200 Honda's. Mine were converted to propane only, so a little less capacity than gas.

I had to carry them inside my 25' FC, or behind the front seats of my SUV on the floor. They are 50 lbs each, so I can lift them. The larger unit is great if you have a pick up and can just leave them in the truck and run a power cord to the forward input plug (which I changed out to a smart plug). I ran mine off the 30lb tanks. Occasionally, I carried a 20 lb propane tank just for the generators. I could not run them off the low pressure front outlet. At 3500' elevation, it just did not provide enough gas and they struggled.

[ricjones]

Originally Posted by r3z

The two issues we ran into with the Honda 3000is which made us move to the 2200 is the weight and height. My back can’t lift that much weight on and off the truck and it did not fit under our new tonneau cover which allows us to attach our bikes on top.

Yes, the 3000 is 134 pounds and puts out 3000 surge.
The NEW eu3200i is only 59.1 pounds (about 10 more than the 2200) AND puts out 3200 watts max.

The new one is the best of both worlds. Small, light (relatively) and lots of watts.

Comparison: https://powerequipment.honda.com/gen...lId=eu3000s1ag