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Old 03-06-2008, 08:02 AM   #21
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good advice.

the only drawback we considered before buying an a/s was the bling factor...
not at all the flashy type

i know and u know where we fall in the pecking order compared to prevost, and the like.. but there's the whole 'millionaire airstreamer' misconception

has anybody ever had any incidents they want to share?
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I don't stop overnight at parking lots (Wal-Marts), truck stops or rest areas. I've seen folks at some of the Wal-Mart's in the area and personally I wouldn't want to be there overnight, but that's because I know the area and what lies beyond the bounds of that parking lot. To me there is relative safety in numbers and probably if I were forced to use one of the three, the truck stop might be my preferred choice.....but if you don't know the area, I'd avoid the parking lot scenario.

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I don't stop overnight at parking lots (Wal-Marts), truck stops or rest areas.
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I've stayed in State Parks where the campers around me presented as much of a danger as those folks found at truck stops, rest stops, and Wal-Marts. Indiana Dunes comes immediately to mind...

You shop at the grocery store with the very folks you should be afraid of, you just don't recognize them as a threat there.

Use common sense, pay attention to who and what is around you, take reasonable precautions for your safety, and the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor that you'll be fine anywhere you stay.

I'll grant you that I'm one of those folks your mommas told you to stay away from, but I can't think of a single moment of RV time in all the years I've done it that I've felt particularly menaced anywhere, and in 33 years of law enforcement experience, I can only recall one instance of a violent attack on the resident of an RV, and that was only after he failed to deliver the methamphetamine he'd promised.

C'mon guys. Paranoia doesn't become us. You're generally as safe in your Airstream as you are at home, however safe that may be.

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enforcement experience, I can only recall one instance of a violent attack on the resident of an RV, and that was only after he failed to deliver the methamphetamine he'd promised.
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Roger, I'm not a paranoia type person but I do believe in "crimes of opportunity". I think for the career criminal, they will get you anywhere, but for others it's spur of the moment because the opportunity presented itself.

It's much like the folks who leave possessions clearly visible within their vehicles. Sure it's locked but someone strolled by, saw the stuff, and poof it's gone. Was someone stalking your vehicle for the break in? Probably not.
Instead you presented an opportunity that someone took.

Same in choosing where you stop overnight. I'm sure there have been campgrounds that I stayed in that probably were on the edge of some seamy areas. But clearly that lone motor home I see parked behind a local Sam's Club in a questionable metro area is probably at greater risk than if they had driven another 20 miles and overnighted at the KOA.

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comparatively speaking, for cities with ~100k population, Dearborn/Hgts is very low crime rate

are you relying on your own anecdotal data, or simply trolling for flames?
I don't troll. I stay away from large cities. They make me un-comfortable. Where i live people leave thier vehicles un-locked all the time. Crime is very low. I attribute this to the fact that more than a few are packing.
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There is plenty of data on the elevated instances of crime at highway rest stops, however. Google it, you might learn something
I am aware of the crime at rest stops. I will not use Florida's rest stops. They have signs that say "Patrolled by State police" or seomthing like that. A hugh clue thier has been problems.
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good advice.

the only drawback we considered before buying an a/s was the bling factor...

i know and u know where we fall in the pecking order compared to prevost, and the like.. but there's the whole 'millionaire airstreamer' misconception
That all depends on weather you act like a Millionaire or a regular "Joe". Which do you act like?
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I just thought of a way to secure the trailer against theft while away! Install a hidden switch in the power cable to the electric jack. If thieves can't easily jack the trailer up to get it on their ball, they will likely move on to easier targets! I used this trick in the Caribbean when I lived in St. Thomas. Vehicle theft was rampant so I put a hidden switch in line to the starter solenoid. Never had my truck borrowed in the two years I lived there!
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In the performance of your duties as a moderator??? I guess I better pay attention to my warn meter!
My "moderation" has sometimes been up close, and in person, and not forums related. I've worked in security in one of the country's busiest seaports.
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I've stayed in State Parks where the campers around me presented as much of a danger as those folks found at truck stops, rest stops, and Wal-Marts. Indiana Dunes comes immediately to mind...

... Use common sense, pay attention to who and what is around you, take reasonable precautions for your safety, and the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor that you'll be fine anywhere you stay.
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Ain't that the truth. As a retired state conservation officer, I've dealt with nearly every conceivable crime from minor infractions to felony theft, domestic violence, GTA, weapons violations, drug trafficking, rape, assault, and attempts thereof... all in state park campgrounds. In the peak of the season, one of our parks was like a small town with the population of the three campgrounds nearing 2,000. All kinds of people like to camp. The large majority of them are great, but there's always a small percentage that bring their problems and issues, even when on vacation. Friday and Saturday nights were always fun.

I've overnighted for years at truck stops, parking lots, Wal-Marts, Cracker Barrels, etc., and have never had a problem yet. I suppose I've been lucky. But, as Roger indicated, it pays to be alert, and to be aware of your surroundings.
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Actually, a large portion of those incarcerated are in jail as the result of our bizarre drug policies, not violent crime.
Although this is a little off the topic, I don't think it's realistic to feel threatened on the road because of the size of our prison population. As someone who has spent 30+ years working in the criminal justice system, I second the observation of General Disarray. We wouldn't need more prison space if it weren't for the misguided and counterproductive "war on drugs"!
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I've stayed in State Parks where the campers around me presented as much of a danger as those folks found at truck stops, rest stops, and Wal-Marts. Indiana Dunes comes immediately to mind...

You shop at the grocery store with the very folks you should be afraid of, you just don't recognize them as a threat there.

Use common sense, pay attention to who and what is around you, take reasonable precautions for your safety, and the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor that you'll be fine anywhere you stay.

I'll grant you that I'm one of those folks your mommas told you to stay away from, but I can't think of a single moment of RV time in all the years I've done it that I've felt particularly menaced anywhere, and in 33 years of law enforcement experience, I can only recall one instance of a violent attack on the resident of an RV, and that was only after he failed to deliver the methamphetamine he'd promised.

C'mon guys. Paranoia doesn't become us. You're generally as safe in your Airstream as you are at home, however safe that may be.

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For the past two days I've seen a Prevost parked in the lot of one of the seedier motels in our area. Go figure.
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I guess pimps make a LOT of money!!!
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I used and still carry the maglite, for the heavier-duty issues I preferred my trusty .38, but company-issue was 9mm...
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I worry more about a stop on the side of the road to fix a flat or broken down TV hard to control the location. I had this exact problem a week ago and gad to stop a few blocks from my home to make some repairs. The first words from my wife's mouth was do you have your gun? A concealed weapons permit is a wonderful thing. My wife, my teenage son, and myself took the concealed carry course together, I am the only one who has a permit, I wanted the wife and son to know what it was all about and the danger. It is not the property it the safety of loved ones which is important. Some places are safer than others I happen to live in an area which is not so safe.
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